CJ Wilson was battling injury all season and if I would cound his wins by forfeit, which I could have done but didn't, he would be 10-6 right now.

its obviously harder to qualify at 4A then say 6A. more kids, same amount of spots. but, i still think the very top of 5A and 6A is tougher then the 2 smaller classes, at least this year.

Worst. Topic. Ever.

Nice one Bronco.

In the past couple years I would of had to say that 4a and 321a where twice as strong as what 5a and 6a where. But this year the tide has turned. At the Garden City tournament Great Bend Liberal and Emporia all beat Andale.

I am officially 0-2 in JUCO competition.... and proud to say after today I believe I am walking away from the mat for good, I'm just not good enough to wrestle in college and I've finally realized that.

I think that you need to realize that Andale probably had 50 state tournament points transfer this year. That's a huge loss, and although they still have some great kids, they are not the team that they were or would be with them. I'm not sure, but I believe that Colby, Pratt and Goodland finished ahead of them at regionals.

records arent everything. i mean look at how weak of a schedule some teams have.

Alex,

It is hard for me to believe that you did not have a motive when you started this topic. Several years ago I did an analysis of the year in school of each of state placers by weight. As expected 103 and 112 had very large percentages of freshmen and sophomores as placers in contrast to 215 and 275 at the time that had very high percentages of juniors and seniors. I was not just trying to provide information. My motives were that I was trying to throw support about the need for more weight classes for heavier wrestlers and also to give support to a topic about whether it was just as difficult for a heavier wrestler to win three state titles as for a lighter wrestler to win four. I think most people reading this topic can see you had a motive in introducing the topic.

I agree with what you are saying here, Mark. Going to State is a great reward for all these wrestlers no matter what their record is. I also agree that none of these young wrestlers are losers. Anyone who steps on that mat is a winner. I noticed on my son's team that the 13 wrestlers who were 1st or 2nd at Regionals last weekend were all real happy for and proud of our one wrestler who finished fourth.

Another thing that I have noticed in my son's own division is that last year's state qualifiers really have improved their results dramatically this year. I believe that they really benefited from last year's state wrestling experience and it will show in their results at State this year.

Yes!

The former wrestlers who feel the need to drag down other wrestlers to assuage their own self worth due to their lack of success on the mat. I believe there are two of them on this topic.

After one year at Colby Community College and one year at Pratt Community College have you exhausted your two years of eligibility?

Have you given any thought to a possible career in chocolate?

oh ... snap!

No I currently have at least another year of eligibility left. I quit at sememster of my redshirt year so I may have another semester and a half left but I do not know.

Chocolate is a good choice but I'd rather deal with agriculture.

If it offends anyone that bad then please feel free to delete the topic.

Alex Ryan

Alex,

You don't have to apologize to these guys about your wrestling credentials. Not many care more about Kansas wrestling than you, and I don't know anyone your age who has done more for the sport in Kansas. You have tried collegiate wrestling, became a certified official, helped your local kids club, participated in the tag team benefits, posted regional results when the host site didn't and have made a lot of friends in the KS wrestling community. I know you weren't belittling any of the qualifying wrestlers and so does everyone else. Not sure what your critics college records were. Maybe they can tell us.

OK... I will agree with all that you just have stated. But lets say Alex by chance was awarded a wild card to juco nationals this last week and some one came along and made a post from another regional that Alex with his sub .500 record didn't deserve the opportunity to compete (indirectly)at the national level when his Coaching peers agreed to give him a chance. How would Alex and his team feel then? My point is to be happy for everyone that is living the dream! Not just stir the POO!

Parkwayred,

I appreciate what you are saying, and I know Alex wasn't trying to rain on anyone's parade. He was trying to start the old 4A is better than your A thread. I'm sure he would feel bad if anyone was personally offended and hadn't even thought about that angle. I was disappointed when moderators jumped in and started ridiculing him about his wrestling abilities.

I know I'm not an excellently skilled wrestler nor do I claim to be. I've put in my dues and my time in the past 6 years to wrestle both in high school and college, and now I must move on.

I've became a certified official and given back in all the ways I can.

I do what I can to get resutls and everything else out there as soon as I can. I tried to post the results for all our duals as I got them.

Maybe I will make a better Sports Information Director somewhere than a wrestler, coach, or official.

I am sorry I cannot please everyone and not everyone appreciates what I've done for the sport. I've given everything I can to it, and now there's no more. I've realized my time is over, a harsh reality to face but as time goes on so must I.

Alex

Also I fought knee problems at the beginning of the year and missed several opens due to them, then became healthy and wrestled at the FHSU Open, then for the UNK open I had some personal issues to resolve before break so I missed it. It took some time (over a month) for Doctor's to figure out I had ITBS (I.T. Band Syndrome).

I came back from Xmas break to only hurt my other knee. Which put me out for a week or two and by then challenge matches were over and thus I never got the chance to challenge, by no one's fault but my own.

There you have it, why I didn't wrestle very much.

I really don't see what the big whoop is? You posted facts not fiction or rumors, I never saw you imply one class is better but put up statistics about losing records, some people on this forum are getting a might touchy about things.