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checking kids skin #104223 03/05/07 05:14 PM
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We took 7 wrestlers to Wichita this weekend and at weigh ins none of them had their skin checked. A few weeks ago at a tournament a boy wrestled all day and in his final match the reff saw a large spot of ringworm on him. So how many kids did he expose to that. So i am just wondering why there hasent been any skin checked. We are too close to state for a bunch of kids getting some skin problem. Just wondering how you all felt about this.

Re: checking kids skin [Re: 10u100] #104260 03/05/07 09:06 PM
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my son said they checked his skin in Wichita

Re: checking kids skin [Re: labrat] #104265 03/05/07 09:50 PM
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they tried to not let my son wrestle at wichita because of a scar from a spider bite that they said looked suspicious, so i know that they were checking there.

Re: checking kids skin [Re: shoot to win] #104267 03/05/07 09:57 PM
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I was working weigh-in for the morning session. A wrestler could not weigh-in if he did not have an X on his arm from the guy checking skin and fingernails.


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Re: checking kids skin [Re: Beeson] #104269 03/05/07 10:03 PM
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I know of this happening two times this year. At Turner a kid had 4 ringworms on his back and at Effingham there was a kid that had one on his leg. I think an official needs to be do the skin checks but that is my opinion!!!


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Re: checking kids skin [Re: Caleb T.] #104271 03/05/07 10:13 PM
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Technically a doctor should do the skin checks, he can tell a spider bite from a ringworm, and should be able to tell if something is contagious or not. Nothing against the refs but if they are in doubt they should not let the wrestler compete.


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Re: checking kids skin [Re: Beeson] #104272 03/05/07 10:53 PM
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my son wrestled a kid in Wichita that later that day the ref spotted a ringworm on him and disqualified him.

Re: checking kids skin [Re: clarkmom] #104297 03/06/07 03:30 AM
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As a parent, and a registered nurse who has done alot of skin checks this year, there has been an over abundance of kids wrestling with ringworm spots. Way more than there should ever be. If it is remotely suspicious, then they should be sent for a doctors release, or not be able to weigh in for the tournament. I know that if my son has anything on his skin that is even questionable, we quickly have a doctor look at it, and get our skin release form taken care of, and have it handy come weigh in time. Nobody wants to take a chance on not being allowed to wrestle come this time of year due to something "funky" on the skin.

Re: checking kids skin [Re: 10u100] #104346 03/06/07 03:37 PM
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Skin was checked at Effingham. One boy came with a Dr.'s release for ringworm - otherwise he would NOT have been allowed to wrestle.

Re: checking kids skin [Re: Allie] #104347 03/06/07 03:44 PM
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What about the boy that was DQ'ed by the ref at Effingham for "ring worm?" Did he have a Dr's release form? Although skin was checked at Effingham, the 'checkers', at least when I was in the weigh-in room, did not look under the singlet (around lower to mid thigh), otherwise they would have spotted this case of potential ring worm.

Re: checking kids skin [Re: Allie] #104351 03/06/07 04:05 PM
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A boy on my son's mat at Effingham was thrown out for a ringworm the size of a quarter on his leg hidden by his singlet.<~(Sneaky)
**The Ref did throw him out, but when a high school boy asked the Ref should we mop the mat the Ref said no.**
Now I don't think any parent was in that big of a hurry. We would have waited for the mat to be cleaned.
What a poor decision.
No telling how many kids got exposed to it. The answer is yes mop the mat no one wants ringworm at this time of the year or any other time either.


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Re: checking kids skin [Re: Scorpion6] #104355 03/06/07 04:28 PM
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No, noone checked under this wrestler's singlet. I have never been to a tournament where wrestlers were checked under their singlets.Maybe we should have all wrestlers weigh-in in their skivvies from now on! I think the bigger issue here is did the wrestler know and try to conceal it. The mats were not washed immediatly but were washed between the sessions.

P.S. Showers were made available to wrestlers wanting to use them and a few did so.

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Re: checking kids skin [Re: effwhyeye] #104359 03/06/07 04:50 PM
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I'm sure the wrestler did know. Wow a ringworm that size must be painfull. Part of being a wrestler is also based on the respect of others. So we will be watching for him at Subs and there after.


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Re: checking kids skin [Re: Scorpion6] #104419 03/07/07 02:53 AM
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This may need to be clarified by Richard Salyers. He knows the rules better than anyone I know. One of the reasons we started weighing in singlets was because girls were also weighing in and this keeps the boys from having to weigh-in naked. When we weigh them they are asked to pull their singlet off the shoulders to look for worms, the girls are checked at a different location by a female. If the kid was dq'ed for a worm that was in a spot normally covered by the singlet, I would say the ref is asking for trouble.

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You statement is incorrect deeohh. In so far that wrestlers are checked with their singlets on you are correct and this is the correct procedure for NFHS rules. HOWEVER if a referee sees a spot he thinks maybe ringworm in a spot that may have been covered by a singlet at weigh-in, that wrestler would still have to produce a release form for the spot. It follows the same principle of illegal undergarments. They can be worn by a wrestler as long as they don't protrude under the singlet. If a referee notices this after a match has started it must be corrected within that wrestler's injury time or he/she is disqualified. The same goes for potential ringworm spots. If a referee spots something that he believes would not have been checked at weigh-in after a match has started or indeed even roaming through the halls if a wrestler for some reason had said spot exposed.

The weigh-in with singlets was established for the very reasons stated above in terms of fairness for females. It was not meant to allow wrestlers to cover known spots. In this instance a referee could take said wrestler aside in private with their coach to examine the spot, if it it questionable then a note must be produced. It is the responsibility of officials to make sure wrestlers are not on the mat with potentially contagious skin problems even if someone is trying to cheat the rules. Its unethical for a wrestler to try and cover a spot, and its unethical for a coach to allow his wrestlers to do such activities as well.

The easy solution to this is to have coaches/parents check all their wrestlers the night before or two days earlier and if they see something they should have that wrestler go to the doctor and get a note. I know doctors cost money but if you are willing to put other wrestlers in danger because you don't want to spend the money, then you should probably find a different sport that doesn't involve close contact.

Re: checking kids skin [Re: TheTiger] #104463 03/07/07 12:17 PM
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I beg to differ about the mat bneing washed, it was not. My son wrestled on the same mat as the kid with ringworm adn it was NEVER WASHED!! The coach had to come tell us that the kid was DQ'd for ringowrm adn my son needed to go make sure he took a real good shower! So to say the mat was washed is not true!!!!

Re: checking kids skin [Re: Michele] #104497 03/07/07 04:36 PM
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I said the mat was washed BETWEEN SESSIONS. Maybe you were out catching a chili dog at the time.

Re: checking kids skin [Re: effwhyeye] #104502 03/07/07 05:13 PM
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BETWEEN SESSIONS is not good enough! It should have been washed as soon as the kid was disqualified! My son wrestled after this kid, and before we found out why he was disqualified!

So the kids that wrestled at the same time as him were put at risk, but the younger kids that wrestled later were ok?? Not acceptable at all!

Re: checking kids skin [Re: Michele] #104517 03/07/07 06:35 PM
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I have to agree with Michele. The mat should have been cleaned before any further wrestling on that mat. I would be upset my kid had to wrestle on a mat following a disqualification for skin condition without the mat being cleaned, especially the week before subs.

Re: checking kids skin [Re: windjammer] #104528 03/07/07 07:26 PM
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I wasn't condoning it, just pointing out that it was washed as I was accused of lying about it.

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