What was all of the fuss about at D2 yesterday that the cops had to come out there and settle it all out??

Oh I want to know too!!!! I wasn't there. We were at North 1

If someone was ejected I hope the proper paperwork is filed, but I won't hold my breath waiting.

Same stuff from the same people every year.

24/7

somethings never change

Hey TOHK How did Brogan Humphrey do last weekend?

It's posted. Looks like 1st in a two man bracket.

It can't always be the other guys fault. Someone has to get control of the situation. Will there be police on hand before next weeks match?

there are no listed "official ejections" on the web site.

Interesting...

The WWC coach may have overreacted but I cant say I wouldn't have done the same thing, no coach should ever talk trash to a 14 year old wrestler! Thats low class. I thought the tourney director listened to all sides and handled the situation really well before making the decision to eject the coaches involved. In talking to some other coaches and parents its always the same people involved almost every week and to be honest its really getting old.

Maybe the WWC coach as well as everybody else should have found out what was said before making judgements.It's funny how people can make excuses for the behavior of certain clubs yet rush to judgement when it comes to Hard Knox,I see bad examples from every club every week.Just about anybody who was matside could tell you some pretty horrible things that were said about 13 year old Daniel,from a certain WWC parent.

Why are we always talking about the same individuals matches? The judgements can be called many things. "Rushed" is not one of them.

Taunting the opponent is ALWAYS inappropriate and should result in disciplinary action. Besides that, what was said went well beyond taunting. At what point do we start to hold any club who has these problems consistently, responsible? If a club is unwilling to control their wrestlers, coaches or fans then we as a governing body need to sanction that club!

It doesn't matter what was said to the other kid, an oppossing coach has no need to talk to the othe wrestler. I dont care if they affered to by him a ring pop after the match its UNCALLED FOR

Don't know what happened, and further more, don't really care. I do have a little problem with people talking down a club like TOHK. Maybe everyone doesn't agree with how they choose to handle a situation, but I will say as a parent/coach, I have seen plenty of other situations this year alone that had just as much reason to have cause for major concern in regards to coaching, handling of kids, etc. If TOHK did something that offended anyone, I would like to believe it wasn't intentional. People need to back off of this club and give them a break! My son has wrestled with this club on occasion, and they have taken him in as one of their own, treated him with the utmost respect, and have taught him to be a better wrestler. Find something else to focus on...TOHK is an excellent club, and has done my son right!

It is never acceptable behavior for a coach to make derogatory remarks to the opposing "wrestler" after the match.


If, as stated above, you do not know the circumstances surrounding this event you are speaking from total ignorance.


The action(s) were intentional and your attempt to rationalize the behavior is misguided. If the same comment was made to your son or the same alleged comment which was made to the wrestler's mother made to you, I am quite certain you would have a different mind set.


Were this a first or second time offense I would wholeheartedly agree. However this unacceptable behavior has gone on for YEARS.


The passion for the sport and the loyalty displayed for their teammates is to be highly commended - it is the poor sportsmanship and unacceptable behavior which brings unnecessary spotlight on the club and their membership.

I also will commend Coaches Taylor (Kenny, Kenny Jr., and Gaylen) and Coach Knox for their attempts to correct this behavior.

Good post Richard. The light needs to shine on those individuals that are involved. It should not be an indictment on the club. This has been swept under the rug for too long. Stand up and do the right thing here!

Eric Johnson

Hope everything will be resolved for all parties involved. My apologies if I offended anyone w/ my post. Just voicing my thoughts...didn't mean to upset the apple cart. SORRY!

I think I will weigh in on this topic. First and foremost. I have had the "pleasure" of officiating many matches involving TOHK kids. And surprisingly enough most of the time they are just as decent as the next club. The problems start arising as soon as a TOHK kid gets behind in a match. At this point is when the parents start trying to officiate the match themselves and give no consideration that the official on the mat just might know what the are talking about. That being said... too many times have I witness outlandish behavior out of SOME of the coaches and parents of the club. I can say in all my dealings with the club Coach Knox has NEVER raised his voice to me when he didn't like a call I made. Hes always been polite albeit frustrated and I understand that. Being sportsmanlike is the only way you will get any kind of attention from me.

Now I can't say the same things about a few of the other coaches for the team. What I will say is I think its time for Charlie to start doing something about his coaches and parents. Its him that needs to stand up and say I don't want my club represented this way. I think thats very important considering they have tremendous talent every year and most of it doesn't involve dirty wrestling and the like. TOHK is a competitive as Purler's kids with an unfortunate side of bad behavior.

This is a call out to Mr. Knox himself. I have alot of respect for you but you HAVE to get your club back in order. I really feel like even though this has gone on for years, eventually its going to come to a head. This could be as serious as a revocation of your club charter and I'd hate to see that. Now thats on their side. On the officials side of things, if they come to the table and question a judgement you KNOW what you are supposed to do. Warning and then ejection WITHOUT QUESTION. And we aren't just talking about coaches. Im talking about the wrestlers and the parents too. Let me also mention that this doesn't just apply to TOHK this applies to every other club too.
I know tournament directors don't like to see ejections but sometimes thats what you have to do. Its time to start making an example out of ANY team whose members act up.

In conclusion... I want to see clubs here in Kansas stop acting like little babies and thinking the world is against you because its not. Wrestling is available to everyone, blind, deaf, missing limbs etc. Don't let our sport get ruined like so many others because you think you have something to prove. Be a sportsman, be a competitor, and above all else, follow the golden rule.

Thanks everybody.