Bicentennial Seating
Specifications
Permanent Seating - 5,225
Side Riser Seating - 840
End Riser Seating - 468
Temp Floor Seating - 1,050
Total Seating - 7,583
Various Events
Concert (end stage) - 6,795
Concert-in-the-round - 6,815
Basketball - 6,533
Circus - 5,225
Ice Show (60'x120') - 4,957
Banquets - 1,360

Topeka Expo Center Seating
Landon Arena

Venue Specifications
22,400 square feet
111'x221'
71' ceiling
10,000 seating capacity
One 800 amp power source
One 400 amp power source
13'9" H x 13'2" W drive-in entrance
Utility Floor Pockets (limited)
State-of-the-art Sound System
State-of-the-art Lighting
Computerized Climate Control
Computerized fire & burglary system
CCTV Security
110 10' x 10' booth capacity on floor



Britt Brown Arena
51,000 total sq. ft. of exhibit area:
Main Arena: 36,500 sq.ft. (146’ x 250’)
East Exhibit Area: 6,500 sq.ft. (50’ x 130’)
West Exhibit Area: 7,250 sq. ft.(50’ x 145’)

Special Features

Seating 6,300 – 12,000 (depending on show)
Concrete floor with permanently installed ice rink
4800 sq. ft. of portable staging
One 1200 – amp and two 400-amp single or 3-phase 120/208 volt available stage power
Stockpile of dirt for rodeos, truck pull, etc.
Two (2) enclosed walkways to Pavilion I
Convenient electrical, water and phone outlets for exhibitors
Twelve (12)concession stands
200-seat meeting room
Eight (8) dressing rooms/show management office
Catering options available
Three (3) large door entrances (largest 40’ wide by 13’8” high)
One (1) 30’ loading dock with two (2) dock doors (8’ wide by 10’ high)
Fully heated and air conditioned
Complete sound and paging system
Metal halide and quartz lighting
Eight (8) strong Xenon “Super Trooper” spotlights
Outdoor display pads adjacent to building
20 public restrooms

It won't hold three classes regardless.

Three Days - Split sessions/classes until they get down to medal rounds and then run back together. Start 1A,2A,3A & 4A in the morning on Thursday run 5A & 6A in the afternoon on Thursday, Friday same thing and then medal matches all together on Saturday or use the same format morning and afternoon.

Ft. Hays
Gross Memorial Coliseum is celebrating its 32nd year during the 2004-05 season. The 6,814-seat arena was finished in August of 1973 at a cost of seven million dollars. The Tigers made the move across campus from Sheridan Coliseum which seated 2,000. Paul “Busch” Gross is the namesake of the Coliseum. Gross coached basketball at FHSU from 1930 to 1946 and totaled 150 wins and 88 losses in 14 seasons.


Emporia State

Home Court ...........................................................................William L. White Auditorium
Capacity....................................................................................................................5,000

Pittsburg State

John Lance Arena
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John Lance Arena is a 6,500 seat multi-purpose arena in Pittsburg, Kansas. It was built in 1971. It is the home of the Pittsburg State University Gorillas basketball teams.

OK, there smokey, you've got me. With all your stats that you've copied and pasted (ala a Richard move) you've single-handed uncovered the entire conspiracy that KSHSAA has been trying to sell the people of the Great State of Kansas!!!

What's your point?

OK Shane,

Another one of my cut and paste. Smokey - Sean McCarthy
Splitting up the tounaments into 4 locations is a Bad Joke.

Eleanor Roosevelt
“Stand up and be counted,” Eleanor counseled, “even when it makes one unpopular.” Or as she put it in one of her memoirs, “Surely, in the light of history, it is more intelligent to hope rather than to fear, to try rather than not to try. For one thing we know beyond all doubt: nothing has ever been achieved by the person who says ‘It can’t be done.’”

I'm not saying that 4 sites is a positive or good thing. I just keep reading all this stuff about negative this and negative that. I've asked Bowden and Musselman what they've considered/looked into. They just get frustrated that most critics out there think they don't care about the athletes and how they seem to have their own agendas and such. They've looked into it all! Don't you think they'd rather have just two locales? Look at what it does as far as KSHSAA $$ and manpower!

Kansas just doesn't have a facility, not ever Kemper can hold all 6 classes. People just need to understand that facility just doesn't exist!

3-day tourney? Have critics take their ideas to the respective HS coach and they take it to their KWCA rep and then have the KWCA present it to the KSHSAA Exec. Board! After all, Bowden doesn't really do anything without the consent/direction of the Exec. Board anyway!

That's how you create change. Not jumping on some forum without putting your name to it and gripe!

Olathe NW is a very nice and large school gym. We had 2005-2006 Sunflower League there. It should NOT be the site for 6A State. How is State held in a school gym different than any other regular season tournament? I think the wrestlers who make it to State deserve an arena environment, anything else is a disappointment. Surely in the cities that serve most of the 6A schools, a suitable arena venue can be found to house 6A State.

I like the pushing state back a week idea only if one of two things happen:

1) more competition points given to allow at least 2 more duals or 1 regular tournament in the schedule (no 2day or dual tournaments)

2.) Allow for a middle week between regionals (also wrestle the 5/6 place match at regionals with no scoring team wise) and state that way if people are injured or so they can heal...if they aren't healed by the Wednesday morning the week of state give the guy that finished 5th a call to come join as a a wildcard.

Aaron:

How dare you come to my home town and not call - LOL!! What were you doing at Scooters? Next time, try Low Places - great food but no mixed drinks, just beer!!

Leanna

I totally agree with you on that reasoning, but I'm not sure about the "KC Metro Area", but Topeka and Wichita do not have any facilities that are either large enough (WSU's Koch Arena) or available (Expo Center).

Leanna....technically aren't you from Green?! LOL...ok I'll have to get your number next time and buy you a drink in town. Heck we should have a Kansas Wrestling Oldtimer's Bar Hop Party!

I think I've been to Low Places for my poker run.

That's how you create change. Not jumping on some forum without putting your name to it and gripe! Sean McCarthy - smokeycabin
STA Kids Club I wasn't griping I was making suggestions. You'll know when I start griping. I get Grumpy.

This is the official KSHSAA High School Forum. The last time I checked on the High School section I was sent to the USAWKS High School Forum immediately to make suggestions in the Suggestion Box.

Rick's always told me, "As long as FHSU has a wrestling program, we will have a state tourney there to support their wrestling program! It's a no-brainer!" That appears to be the 1-2-3A State, with no end in sight...

Suggestion Box: That is kind of closed minded. What about Newman and the Community Colleges. I know their venues are to small but they also need the support of KSHSAA.

To get back on topic here...

If you'd ever spend the time and TALK to Bowden or Musselman,
I am not on a first name basis with Rick or Mr. Bowden and Mr. Musselman. I am sure you'll pass on the message and or suggestions. I am sure they read these forums to get ideas or maybe somewhere in the chain of command a HS Coach or AD can follow proper procedure to get the message acrossed to the Excutive Board so they can tell so an so that 4 seperate locations is Crazy. Not a very cost effective use of KSHSAA resources. A nightmare for fans and recruiters to attend. Heaven only knows there could be fewer officals needed. Just kidding - but I'll bet that is one of the biggest expenses of a State Tournament. I am almost positive on that one. When we run tournaments it is our biggest expense.

smokeycabin = Sean McCarthy

That's pretty funny you went there.

There are approximately 1,624 matches for all classes during the state tournament. 1,624 / 40 (refs) = 40 (approx) matches per ref or less than 3 duals. Take that same number of matches and divided it by 30. 1,624/30 = 54 (approx) matches per ref. Or take 1,624/20 = 80 (approx) matches per ref (6 duals over 2 days). Or that is the equivalent of 40 matches per day per ref.


There are approximately 896 wrestlers in all 4 classes.
There are approximately 1,624 matches for all classes during the state tournaments that are currectly held. Using 6 mats there would be 271 matches per mat. Over 4 days that is 67.7 matches per mat per day. If the 4 classes are split(in to 2 classes) and seperated into 2 venues - well I'll let you do the math. Answering your questions above.

What's the square root of that?

I just got a brain freeze and I'm not eating anything cold.

Are you figuring two refs per match like is the norm now? I wish coaches would ask KSHSAA to discontinue this policy. I don't think it makes the officiating any better and might make it worse on average.

Smokey Cabin I think it boils down to having to miss another day of school and make weight for a 3rd day in a row, something the KSHSAA doesn't want.

Which would you want if you were a state finalist? All eyes on your mat or sharing it with 4 other classes going on at once, seems to tarnish it to me.

This is a really interesting discussion. After having coached the State tournament at Hays, at Wichita and in Des Moines, I just had a couple of observations:

1 — Hays was fun. It just was. We were treated like kings by the FHSU staff, and the community as a whole. It was fun to be the only game in town. Because of that, 4As going to Salina and the splitting the 5As and 6As has merit, just from that standpoint. Kansas is unique in the fact that while the state does not have a centrally (or somewhat centrally) located arena with 12,000 or seats that would be readily available, it has a wealth of very nice smaller arenas (Hays, Salina, Hutch, Emporia) that would be great sites. I always thought that Hutch would be a great wrestling venue. So yes, there is a lot of validity to splitting the classes.

2 — Multi-classed tournaments are fun too, but you have to have the right facility, run the right way with enough mats and seating. Also, for a three-class tournament to work the right way — with the arenas available — you would need to go to three days, and I just don't see KSHSAA going for that. We did three for almost 30 years in Iowa, and recently went to four. That's just a long week.

3 — Whatever happens, as someone pointed out earlier, my experience with KSHSAA when I was down there was that they are very focused on doing what's best for the kids and what the coaches and schools want. So any changes they make will be done with those things in mind.

It may or may not tarnish it for some wrestlers, but I do remember as a fan at the 456a tournament that if one match was slow or "boring" I could watch another final.