weighin in ounces
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I believe we need to eliminate the ounces in weighin's, i heard of a few kids in subs that were not allowed to wrestle because of a few ounces, now i know you should make weight but all scales are not the same. if your wrestling 40,43,46 and son on, and your not 41,44 or 47 pounds and so on up the weight scale you should be allowed to wrestle. a couple ounces will not make no diffrence. if you are wrestling at 49 pounds, and weigh in at 49.3 well you are 49 pounds, you did not hit 50 pounds , once again just my thoughts.
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Re: weighin in ounces
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03/17/08 05:19 PM
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I do alot of reading on this forum but not much posting. I do agree on the ounces. I would agree to give the kids .4 if they were wrestling in the 40lb weight and weighted in at 40.4 they should be allowed. If they were 40.5 or above then i agree they should not be allowed to wrestle. We talk all the time about not letting or wanting these guys to cut weight well lets give them a few ounces. Not all scales weight the same.
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Re: weighin in ounces
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03/17/08 05:23 PM
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It is sad when a kid that is .3 over doesn't get to wrestle, usually because the kids doesn't enter himself it is the parent. Parent need to pay more attention to their kids weight and adjust them accordingly.
If they were .3 over due to dodging someone a class above. Well you can't run from everyone all the time, but now they are running home.
That is just the way it is 49 is 49 not 49.2 it's wrestling if it was easy everybody would be doing it.
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03/17/08 05:26 PM
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Then you effectively adjust all the weighs up a pound. Just as many kids will be .2 or .4 over the adjusted weight. If your kids are that close bump them up. Othewise make the posted weight.
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03/17/08 05:39 PM
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i don't think dodgeing people is the problem, my son nix weighs in around 38.9 to 39.4 all year. we went to one tournament ate breakfast along the way, we arrived weighed in he was at 40.2 and they were not going to let him wrestle. he could not go pee so we sat by the bathroom till 5 minutes before weighin was closed, and he finally went pee, we went in and weighed in he weighed in at 39.8, now either he had a lot of pee in him or the scale was not accurate twice in a row. just think if he would have took a poop, man he could have made 37 pounds lol i don't know. i do know a pee or no pee he had no advantage over aonther wrestler.
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Re: weighin in ounces
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03/17/08 05:49 PM
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we have seen 3 diffrent types of scales this year, we have seen the nice one's most have, we have seen household scale's and the old ones where you adjust the weight by hand up top. you can not ell me all 3 types would have weighd the same. whats next we show up at a tournament, and we pay a carnival worker in a goofy vest a dollar to guess our kids weight. now thats an idea maybe they could bring the basket ball goals that are lopsided and we could shoot hoops until after he gets done guessing the weight.
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03/17/08 05:52 PM
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WHOA NELLIE, ounces DO matter. If the weight is 52, then you need to make 52. If you can't then you need to wrestle up. Where would we draw the line on how much over is too much over. There has to be a line drawn in the sand...you either make it or you don't. High School and College don't give ounces. Our little guys need to learn young that YOU MAKE WEIGHT.
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03/17/08 05:56 PM
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Nix-your son is not the issue, but unfortunately needs to be covered under the same rules there to protect him from those say cutting 3-4 pounds, that don't need to be at 6U/40.
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03/17/08 05:58 PM
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I agree you must make the weight thats why there are more than one set of scales at weigh ins we had 2 kids that were ounces over but ran it off and made weight they also were allowed to use any of the scales, and yes one scale had one of them over .02 and another had them under .03
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03/17/08 06:00 PM
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24/7,
Nice post you said it alot better than I did.
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03/17/08 06:10 PM
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I totally agree on not giving any ounces. At our tournament this year, we had a parent (from our own club) that threw and absolute fit over 2 ounces. She was even unwilling to take her son to the bathroom. I think what the problem is, is that we have so many small towns around ours that do give up to a pound, that parents don't watch as close as they should. Making weight is part of wrestling, and as "unfair" as some parents think it is, that is just the rule. Wrestling is a very competitive sport, and I think some new parents think it is going to be like AYSO soccer, where everyone wins! Not. Also, we all have to admit, that a good portion of the kids would not be wrestling at this young of an age unless their parents were competitive! That's the way it is at my house anyway!
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03/17/08 06:15 PM
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Its up to the parent to decide what weight these kids wrestle. Pick the correct weight its that simple. My 8-u wrestler weighs 68 in the mornings & wrestles 70 because he raids the kicthen when he gets home from school. My older son is more disiplined & can stay out of the food untill I get home. He will eat the foods we decide on with very little cheating, so when he said he wanted to drop a weight class for districts & state I agreed. My younger son had to stay where he is at. It depends on the kid. My son only had to drop 1-2 pound to make the lower class if it was more I would not let him. I agree with 24/7 first post. We get our kids at least a half pound under & never have a problem.
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your right my son is not the issue, he has always made weight, i used him as an example. answer this for me then i am sure alot of people have seen this. you go to a tournament and the kids is over lets say by 2 ounces. they tell them to step on another scale and there right on. now what scale is right. was he cheated by the first scale or did he get by with 2 ounces because the 2 scale was wrong.
now why are gas pumps certified, my guess is so the flow rate is the same on all pumps, so no one gets CHEATED. same as with scales at elavators so no one gets CHEATED even by the once on corn , wheat and so on.
now that is not right a kid does not it to state because a scale is wrong. i know every one is saying wrestle up then you don't have to worrie about it. but what scale is right when there is 2 scales reading diffrent amounts???????????
we went to a tournament around the wichita area won,t say where untill i pm them and ask if they mind. but they had a kid go around to 4 diffrent scales and they all were diffrent. they let the kid in anyway and that they should have.
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03/17/08 06:22 PM
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Were they letting everyone try all 4 scales?
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03/17/08 06:29 PM
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Are all the scales certified across the state and in each club to be able to not alow ounces ? My son has not had to worry this year he started at 103 and has been wrestling in the 110 all year. So we have not had to worry. All my opinion is worth would be .1-.4 ounces with scales varing they way we all know they do should not drop a child out of a event. My opinion only I am sure others have the oposite opinion and they have the right to speak it. Did i read somewhere that the High School level was making rule changes that give 1 lb ? or was i just dreaming that ?
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Re: weighin in ounces
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03/17/08 06:30 PM
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and yes i would agree with making weight if my son every goes over 4 ounces he's moving up. but i do have a problem with diffrent scales reading diffrent weights. and after reading some of your posts on this subject maybe your right 40 would be 40 not 40.2. but like i ask what scale would be right.
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Were they letting everyone try all 4 scales? i am sure they did they were a good bunch of people. i can't say they did because we only wintnessed the one kid. but i am sure the would have.
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03/17/08 06:36 PM
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It doesn't matter where you draw the line, kids will not get to wrestle due to a few ounces and/or inaccurate scales.
You have to draw the line somewhere, and it is rightfully drawn with zero tolerance. Weight allowances punish kids who manage the weight properly.
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03/17/08 06:37 PM
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Nix, I have enjoyed reading your posts all year, I just dont agree with you on this one. My experience has been they will let you try other scales & go with the lowest one. I dont think 2 tenths is a problem anyway. At chapman my boy was 6 tenths over he went to the bathroom took off his underpants & to make a long story short got rid of every thing he could & came back & weighed was only 2 tenths over & they let him through. We could have lost the other 2 tenths with a couple laps around the gym.
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It doesn't matter where you draw the line, kids will not get to wrestle due to a few ounces and/or inaccurate scales.
You have to draw the line somewhere, and it is rightfully drawn with zero tolerance. Weight allowances punish kids who manage the weight properly.
very true but what about the kid who does manage his weight properly but steps on to a scale that is inaccurate. now he gets punished. sounds like an even trade off to me.
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