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South Dakota Bans After Match Handshake! #128618 05/09/08 01:30 PM
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South Dakota High School Wrestling Bans After Match Handshakes!

Wrestling: Activities association bans after-match handshakes
By Jim Holland, Journal staff Friday, May 09, 2008

RAPID CITY — To the list of illegal holds — full nelsons, overscissors, back bows and headlocks — South Dakota high school wrestlers can add another: shaking hands with an opposing coach just after a match.

At an April meeting in Pierre, the South Dakota High School Activities Association’s board of directors voted to adopt the recommendation of an advisory panel and prohibit post-match handshakes between a wrestler and an opposing coach.

The new rule takes effect in the 2008-09 school year. Unlike other illegal moves, however, there is no penalty for shaking hands.

Bob Lowery, SDHSAA assistant executive director, said adopting the rule was more about not showing wrestlers or coaches who choose not to shake hands in a bad light, rather than discouraging sportsmanship.

“It’s not like we’re not showing good sportsmanship, because we’re shaking hands throughout the match. This is just a situation that we’re eliminating something because not everyone is in favor of doing it,” Lowery said.

“You have some coach say we’re not going to do it, so I don’t have to worry about my kids doing something stupid, and now they’re being accused of being poor sports because they don’t shake an opposing coach’s hand. We don’t want to have the perception that those that weren’t doing it were being poor sports,” Lowery said.

Lowery said the vast majority of wrestlers shake hands during the face-off at the beginning of a dual, just before a match and again immediately afterward, then again at the end of the dual, Lowery said.

“It seems like all we do in wrestling is shake hands,” he said.

Often, a coach is working with a wrestler preparing for the next match and isn’t available to shake hands, he said.

“The thought was, for consistency purposes, let’s just eliminate that handshake,” Lowery said. “There’s no penalty if they do it, it’s just that they’re not expected to.”

“I think we are still teaching our athletes about sportsmanship and the correct behavior to exhibit after a win or loss,” Rapid City Central coach Lance Pearson said. “I don’t think this is a big issue if people look at how many other times our wrestlers are exhibiting good sportsmanship.

“I have always been a coach that wanted my kids to shake the opposing coach’s hand at the end of a match to show good sportsmanship and to teach them to control their emotions whether they won or lost,” Pearson said.

“That was just me and I had no problem with those coaches, kids or teams that chose not to do this,” he said.

Douglas coach Sean Gholson believes the rule sells athletes short.

“We are telling them that they cannot be trusted to act appropriately, so we are not going to place them in a situation they cannot handle,” he said.

“If your athlete does something negative, like spitting on their hands, then that reflects on your program directly. Coaches are teachers also, and the athlete needs to know what they did was wrong and own up to it, by either apologizing or sitting out the next contest, or whatever the coach sees as necessary,” Gholson said.

“You teach your athletes to be respectful in victory and defeat,” he said.

Sturgis coach Steve Keszler said the sport continues to maintain a high level of respect among athletes and coaches.

“I can’t even recall one (incident) that would be big enough to say it was a problem,” Keszler said “I’ve coached for 17 years and never had a problem.

“Will a kid come over and give you an honest handshake? Not always. I understand if they want to slap my hand sometimes if they just lost a big match. It’s an emotional sport,” he said.

“I’ve also had to bite my own lip and count to 10 real quick before the kid came over, because I thought that maybe we lost because he stalled or something like that, but I had to be a professional, slap the kid on the back and say ‘nice job,’” he said.

Like Keszler, Rapid City Stevens coach Brian Moser said he has never had an issue with poor sportsmanship.

“I believe it shows great character to walk across the mat and shake the other coach’s hand,” Moser said. “I have always thought that wrestling was a sport that you not only wrestle your opponent, but you are wrestling the other coach as well.”

This is not the first time that post-match handshakes between wrestlers and coaches have been prohibited, Keszler said.

“This has flip-flopped twice. There was another time when you couldn’t do it, then everybody complained and it got changed back to where it was allowed. Now eight or ten years later, it’s not allowed.

“If you wait eight more years, it’ll be changed back,” he said.


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Re: South Dakota Bans After Match Handshake! [Re: RichardDSalyer] #128635 05/09/08 06:25 PM
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This might be the dumbest waste of time of a state athletic association's business I've heard of in a long time.


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Re: South Dakota Bans After Match Handshake! [Re: maybeimamazed] #128637 05/10/08 10:51 AM
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Wrestlers put other wrestlers in head locks, chicken wings, and other things all of the time as well. Maybe someone should create a rule for that since some wrestlers and coaches don't like those either.

A HORRIBLE RULE AND EXAMPLE!

Re: South Dakota Bans After Match Handshake! [Re: Mike Furches] #128639 05/10/08 07:14 PM
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Believe me, if you saw how the youth program was run, youwould see that the apple doesnt fall far from the tree... I believe Mr. Juby would have a fit if he saw how a kids tournament was ran up there

Re: South Dakota Bans After Match Handshake! [Re: RichardDSalyer] #128654 05/12/08 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted By: RichardDSalyer
South Dakota High School Wrestling Bans After Match Handshakes!

Wrestling: Activities association bans after-match handshakes
By Jim Holland, Journal staff Friday, May 09, 2008


“You have some coach say we’re not going to do it, so I don’t have to worry about my kids doing something stupid, and now they’re being accused of being poor sports because they don’t shake an opposing coach’s hand. We don’t want to have the perception that those that weren’t doing it were being poor sports,” Lowery said.



I think the wrestlers that do not shake the opposing coach's hand and the coaches who tell their kids not to are poor sports.

So much for the life lessons I always tell people this sport teaches. Rules like this undermine that immensely. In my life outside of sports, I have had to be gracious to people in times of disappointment, sadness, or loss. I've always felt that my many years of participation in athletics add to my ability to handle these situations successfully.


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Re: South Dakota Bans After Match Handshake! [Re: RJW1] #128655 05/12/08 02:00 PM
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You know, one of the things I have always thought was cool about hockey was in the Stanley Cup playoffs, at the end of every series, before anything else, the two teams line-up and shake hands. It's friendly, it's genuine and it's expected. This is after seven games of absolutely beating the crap out of each other with sticks on ice. I would have to say in all the years I've coached, I've rarely had an opposing kid come over and shake my hand that was being anything but a gentleman.

What a waste of the South Dakota Athletic Association's time.


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Re: South Dakota Bans After Match Handshake! [Re: maybeimamazed] #128742 05/14/08 01:52 PM
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One of the things that I have always loved about wrestling is the feeling of "brotherhood" among the competitors. At any tournament in Kansas, you will see friendships develop during the course of a season. The cool thing is, it's not only among wrestlers, it's coaches and parents of opposing teams as well...I think it's a feeling of mutual respect. I believe it's something that does not happen in any other sport. Maybe it's because wrestlers are always battling for recognition in most schools. Maybe it's because we understand the dedication of getting up for 5 am weigh ins, long weekends in the gym, and some living on food that only a rabbit would love.

This is not a rule change that only occurs in wrestling, but other sports as well. Some states have done away with the post game handshakes in football. I hate to see that happen. I agree wholeheartedly with Rick that wrestling probably teacher more "life lessons" than any other sport. It's hard to get up sometimes, and it's important to learn to win with class and dignity. It's a part of life, and a part of wrestling. I hate to see any change by rule that undermines the potential for those lessons.

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Re: South Dakota Bans After Match Handshake! [Re: Shelstin] #128831 05/20/08 04:31 PM
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I believe that you should'nt have to shake a coaches hand. They didn't wrestle the coach so I really like the rule that they have started. This sport still teaches a brotherhood just because they know what each of them do. Also I really don't want my wrestler or kid going over and shakeing some other coaches hand.


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Re: South Dakota Bans After Match Handshake! [Re: Dream] #128832 05/20/08 06:24 PM
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My kids will continue to shake the opposing coach's hand and then they will continue to come and shake my hand after every single match. There are many things about my wrestlers that I cannot control (genetics, years of experience) but where there are areas that I do have some control over(character development) I will do my best.

Admittedly there are wrestlers who's hands I don't want to particularly shake, especially after they perform a goofy celebration after pinning my first year wrestler, but it is equally important for coaches to model good sportsmanship to their athletes. I hope your wrestlers continue to come and shake my hand after their match (even if its after they do a goofy celebration for pinning a first year wrestler.)


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