Hey Slappy, have you seen any of the post by jeff peterson @ 125 321a he was talkin about how studly he was but forgot to mention that he has not had any compitition, write him for a little advice on how to digest crow.He's just a kid so he might not be able to help . maybe the Betty Crock of sheet cookbook will have an answer for ya. or better yet why dont ya have a grip on how good someone is before you post and if the season was over u might have made a valid statement but as u know it is far from over and highschool kids r usually the top placers in the weight classes wrer talkin about.