321A, 4A, 5A, 6A Team of the decade
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i was just curious to see who you guys think these teams are for the team of the decade out of all classes
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Re: 321A, 4A, 5A, 6A Team of the decade
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hmmm... 6A-Manhattan, Goddard 5A- Bishop Carrol, then Turner.. They had two really strong yrs 4A- Definatley Clay Center, but after that Abilene
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Looking at the past results for 321A it is up in the air.
ACCHS won it in 2000 and 2001 Hoxie won it in 2002 and 2003 Norton won it in 2004, 2005, 2006, and 2010 Smith Center 2007, 2008, and 2009
So Norton has 4, Smith Center 3, ACCHS and Hoxie twice.
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hmmm... 4A- Definatley Clay Center, but after that Abilene Clay for sure since they won 5 titles this decade, but Abilene only won one title this decade so not sure they are the next best?
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idk but for 5A Emporia should probably be in the mix they are geared up to win the state championships every year!
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Re: 321A, 4A, 5A, 6A Team of the decade
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It's really not that big of a tossup. Norton had two of the most dominate titles of any school in the past decade with the victories of their 2006 and 2010 teams. They also have consistently finished in the top 5 of the state every year. Heck they even wrestled 4A for a season and still were a top 5 team. Norton is the only 321A program that has annually went head to head against the top programs in the state and had success.
While Hoxie was good for the first 5 or 6 years of the 2000's they have fallen off quite a bit. There was one season Hoxie failed to even qualify a wrestler to the "big dance".
Almost the exact opposite thing happened with Smith Center. They weren't a relevant factor at state for the first 5 years or so of the 2000s. This is almost in direct correlation to their football success that they have dominated the state tournament.
ACCHS hasn't had consistent success at Hays. Those two title years were just a huge blip on the radar. They've only had a handful of top ten finishes since then.
Norton in my opinion has been the hands down best program in 321A. I think the argument should be which Norton championship team is better. I would put my money on the 2006 team. They ran away with the Newton Tournament that year and had 4 state champions to go along with a host of other medalist.
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Re: 321A, 4A, 5A, 6A Team of the decade
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I would be more interested in seeing an all decade team made up of the best wrestlers in each class at each weight.
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Re: 321A, 4A, 5A, 6A Team of the decade
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I would be more interested in seeing an all decade team made up of the best wrestlers in each class at each weight. That would be very interesting to see for sure. But who could put together such a list? It would require a great deal of research. Also, wouldn't 2010 be considered part of the new decade?
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I would be more interested in seeing an all decade team made up of the best wrestlers in each class at each weight. That would be very interesting to see for sure. But who could put together such a list? It would require a great deal of research. Also, wouldn't 2010 be considered part of the new decade? 2010 should be apart of a new decade.
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Colby had a pretty good decade also.
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I think that Colby might be the only 4a team in the last ten years to place in the top 8 every year, with two championships.
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321A All Decade Team (Off the top of my head)
103: Fransisco Antillion, Scott City 112: Nash Burtin, Eureka 119: Clay Madden, Norton 125: James Annon, Norton 130: Colt Rogers, Smith Center 135: Levi Younkin, Oakley 140: Matt Gilland, Hoxie 145: Jason Pyle, Sabetha 152: Brett Hille, WaKeeny-Trego 160: Lance Roe, Norton 171: Chris Purcel, Effingham ACCHS 189: Noah Clous, Effingham ACCHS 215: Jeff Horinek, Atwood/TJ Staab, Plainville 285: Duane Zlatnik, Rossville/Andrew Ubben Phillipsburg
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Re: 321A, 4A, 5A, 6A Team of the decade
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321A All Decade Team (Off the top of my head)
103: Fransisco Antillion, Scott City 112: Nash Burtin, Eureka 119: Clay Madden, Norton 125: James Annon, Norton 130: Colt Rogers, Smith Center 135: Levi Younkin, Oakley 140: Matt Gilland, Hoxie 145: Jason Pyle, Sabetha 152: Brett Hille, WaKeeny-Trego 160: Lance Roe, Norton 171: Chris Purcel, Effingham ACCHS 189: Noah Clous, Effingham ACCHS 215: Jeff Horinek, Atwood/TJ Staab, Plainville 285: Duane Zlatnik, Rossville/Andrew Ubben Phillipsburg At first glance I would say this is a very good start. I'd consider moving Burtin and Madden down a weight class and squeezing in Tyler Baker of Hoxie at 119. He had three state titles and a fourth place finish. Antillion only wrestled in 321A two seasons and both of the 103 weight classes he wrestled in were quite weak when viewing future state results of those state placers. Antillion's a good wrestler but if you were to put him in the bracket that Madden and Burtin wrestled in freshman year I think Antillion has a hard time placing. It had 4 state champions in it and a 3 time runner-up. Neither of Antillion's titles were that difficult. Only one of his 103 brackets had a state champion besides him and that was Troy Bainter of Norton. Shawn Drennan of Minneapolis is another wrestler worth taking a look at. He had to wrestle in some pretty tough weight classes with wrestlers like Eric Johnson of Norton, Matt Pyle of Sabetha, Matt Engelbert of Beloit, and Jeremy Morris of Beloit. All of these guys won state titles except Engelbert, who I believe was a runner-up, in their careers making it even more difficult for Drennan to win 2 titles.
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Re: 321A, 4A, 5A, 6A Team of the decade
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what do you think about the 4a all decade team
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I think Danny Floyd out to be included on that list
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Re: 321A, 4A, 5A, 6A Team of the decade
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Yes, Floyd is another wrestler who could be included on this list. I was just trying to add wrestlers from earlier in the decade or I'd have mentioned him.
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Re: 321A, 4A, 5A, 6A Team of the decade
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Here is my best attempt at a 4A All-Decade Team while just taking a brief look over past state championships. I'm sure I could add some more wrestlers into this ranking, like Taylor Moder, Brett Bahe, Jacob Marrs, Chris Saferite, Scott Elliot, Blake Fisher, Chris Watson, and Trent Cox. I tried to base this list off of success at the collegiate level as much as what has been done in high school. I also tried to compensate for those wrestlers who did not finish their career at a 4A school that explains the lack of Bahe, Elliot, Watson, and Cox. Disney was included because there was no clear cut 285 besides him. I could have opted to bump Bedore to 285 since he won one of his three state titles there. This would have opened up a hole that I could have bumped Jacob Marrs into.
103: Jake Kreigbaum-Abilene 112: Earl Jones-Coffeyville 119: Austin DeVoe-Columbus 125:Matt Murray-Colby 130: CJ Naiper-Columbus 135: Cole Garcia-Colby 140: Danny Grater-Clay Center 145: Eric Luedke-Colby 152: Ryne Coekley-St. James Academy 160: Ross Taplin-Abilene 171: Neil Erisman-DeSoto 189: Jesse Strawn-Holton 215: Jordan Bedore-Goodland 285: Atticus Disney-Andover Central
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Re: 321A, 4A, 5A, 6A Team of the decade
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Matt Schippers from Hoxie might be a 152 to consider in 321A. 2x NJCAA All American
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Re: 321A, 4A, 5A, 6A Team of the decade
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I'm going off a one year team, not the best over the last decade.
321A Team of the Decade, 2003 Hoxie Indians aka Baker's Dozen As far as tough top to bottom, this team is probably it. 11 out of 13 qualifiers placed, as well as the team setting a State Record for points scored in a state tournament at 218.0 points. This is pure domination on their part considering this is a state tournament.
3 Champions 3 Runner-Ups 1 3rd 2 4ths 1 5th 1 6th
2003 Results 103- Cale Farber 2nd 112- Michael Schamberger 3rd 119- Tyler Baker 1st 125- Tyrel Spillman 2nd 130- Mat Gilliland 1st 135- Matt Schippers 1st 140- Jason Schippers 2nd 145- Curt Schamberger 6th 152- Jay Lewis 4th 160- Doug Campbell DNP 171- Ryan Shipley 4th 189- Justin Cooper DNP 215- Fred Pratt 5th 285- No Qualifier
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Re: 321A, 4A, 5A, 6A Team of the decade
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You know it's a pretty salty list Ricky when guys like Trevor Charbonneau, Gerrard Speer, and Jacob Strait do not make it.
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