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If you missed it, the BigTen network had the conference championship matches live yesterday afternoon. There were some great matches with some of the best in college wrestling (they typically replay them if you're interested -- Cox channel 273 or HD 2273 if anyone is interested). This network had several conference and even some non-conference matches aired throughout the season as well . I agree ReDPloyd, more things like this would help drive the sport. I wish the Big12 had something like this, it's fun to watch with the boys.

Beeson. Cool it!! You come across as a real light weight!

When I was in HS 50 yers ago they did not have wrestling. So, I don't know the details--what most of the moves are called, etc. For what ever reason I called follkstyle freestyle. I did know that Greco was different than what I saw in HS.

Saw my first HS wresling in 1980 when my middle son started wrstling in Jr High in Virginia. Pretty good wrestler but only wrestled 3 years and then did only football. Next wrestling I saw was "95" when my youngest started wrestling in the 9th grade. Spent a loy of butt time on the bleachers--still watch and enjoy a lot of wrestling.

So I don't know the details. So what? I do know and enjoy a good move and technique and a good wrestler when I see it. Does not take a brain surgeon to see a good athlete use his skills.

So, you don't need to cut me any slack Jack. Go argue with Lucas Baker!

I was at the Big 12 championships and they did have a camera crew. I'm sure it will be broadcast several times. If anyone knows of the date and time, would you please post them?

Contrarian, At least Lucas Baker is posting what he truely believes. You are just trying to stir the pot or go fishing, whatever you want to call it.

contrarian should take ole beeson outside and show him what a backyard wrestling match is all about

pumkin pounders.

contrarian is just pissed that wrestlers have a silent prayer on the mat instead of the in locker rooms like all the other sports.
and as for your "tugging and jurking" keep that crap to your self this is a family fourm.

Mr. Hurla:

Contrarian, Bill Mason, Lansing here. Responding to your post.

Tried to do this by private message to preclude continuing or startin a row. But, left something out and message did not transmit.

2 comments if I may:

I have no objection to a voluntary individual or team prayer in the privacy of the locker room. Do object to non voluntary prayer, or public prayer in the gym or on the mats. Question: If everyone else does the prayer in the locker room--as you say- why do you have to do your's on the mats?

Do not understand your statement about "tugging and jerking", "crap", and "this is a family forum". Tugging and jerking was not a sexual inference. I was using fishing as an analogy of how some people are like the fish: they take the bait, and when hooked, they tug and jerk and fight the line and the rod. There are three pleasures to fishing: getting a fish to bite, setting the hook, playing the fish. Landing the fish is anti-climatic. Lots of fish out there. If you did not get this you must be slow on the uptake--or you are a fish.

LOL!!! Now who is the fish and who is the fisherman?

En garde.

My answer would be because it is individual. And if I want to stop anywhere and say a prayer then I can. If the ref deems that I am impeeding the natural progression of the match then he can penalize me.

Agree. As long as someone does not call a bunch together on the mat/in the gym and hold a prayer meeting. It would no longer be private.

Go read the KSHSAA policy.

If the "someone" is a student and the "bunch" comes voluntarily their is no problem.

Again, go read the KSHSAA policy. Its that simple.

This started out about a great weekend of sports. Why have a couple of you dragged another topic over here.

Sure I'll bite.....it did not start as a topic about a great weekend of sports.

Thanks for the other topic, at least it is worth discussing.

Now....wait for it.....

I had to take time out from watching the Big 12 BB Tournament to send this post.

I have quit fishing for awhile. Getting too vitriolic.

pumkin pounder.

Thought I had quit fishing.

Guess not. Headup is still hooked and fighting. Think I will speed up the boat and drag his a** ashore.

anytime you want to quit pretend fishing, come on down to the lake. you can hook a real catfish and wrestle it ashore. but i'll warn you, the people there are like the people on this forum. if you start talking about how much prettier or nicer or better some other lake is........you'll find your a$$ at the bottom of the creek channel. that's just the women. sorry but you don't go to a friends house and tell him how much better it is elsewhere.

sorry you take offense, but once a pumpkin pounder always a pumpkin pounder. orrr maybe pumpkins are great bait??? i've never heard of the great north kansas contrarian fish, bu i keep throwin' em out and trollin' the river, the pounder keeps bitin.

I wrote probably the equivilent of the length of the A section of the Websters dictionsary for this post and then realized that it would fall on deaf ears(those of the self proclaimed fisherman in the group), that is if someone read it outloud. Then I decided that everything I had written was the stuff that HEADUP, Beeson and many many others of us understand and those in the other group never will no matter how much of this banter goes on weather it is intended to be helpful to those that are misunderstanding or not. Then I realized I better get that extra hour of sleep tonight because we got weigh ins tommorrow night, subs on Saturday and Middle School Championships on Sunday and all those other practices and weekends from now until middle July when we'll finish up wrestling for the year (No it's not over, Just a little FYI, Fisherman). Come to think of it why am I on the High School threads....still got two years until we gotta worry about that. Oh yea, more stuff that that fisherman wouldn't understand. Anyway, better get, gotta go get some rest so I can go spend time with my Wrestling Family. Yes they are all my Wrestling Family, Fisherman, and that does make this sport more of a family geared sport than all those others are, so if you purport that as a weakness, you may want to try another angle.

Be careful what you're fishing for, you may get a shark or worse a school of those "harda**" ones that will eat you up and spit you back out. Think about this for the few that have steppped up to reply to your ignorance and possibly expose some of their own doing so (referring to me), there are a multitude out of sight ready to quietly join the frenzy.

Guess I should have left the A section of Websters though, seems like this is much less coherent than the previous........oh well, like I said, most likely will fall on deaf ears.

To my Wrestling Family, and you all know who you are, Keep up the good fight, I know you will.

PE