Valley Center December Duals
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VALLEY CENTER DECEMBER DUALS December 4, 2010---Valley Center High School----Valley Center, Kansas
GOLD POOL Team (seed) A---Emporia B---Andover Central C---Great Bend D---Valley Center E---Douglass
PURPLE POOL Team (seed) A---Clay Center B---Derby C---Wichita Heights D---Chanute E---Ottawa
9:00 am -- ROUND 1 MAT 1 -- Purple A vs. Purple D MAT 2 -- Purple C vs. Purple E MAT 3 -- Gold A vs. Gold D MAT 4 -- Gold C vs. Gold E (team B -- BYE)
10:30 am -- ROUND 2 MAT 1 -- Purple A vs. Purple E MAT 2 -- Purple B vs. Purple D MAT 3 -- Gold A vs. Gold E MAT 4 -- Gold B vs. Gold D (team C -- BYE)
12:00 pm -- ROUND 3 MAT 1 -- Purple B vs. Purple C MAT 2 -- Purple D vs. Purple E MAT 3 -- Gold B vs. Gold C MAT 4 -- Gold D vs. Gold E (team A -- BYE)
1:30 pm -- ROUND 4 MAT 1 -- Purple A vs. Purple C MAT 2 -- Purple B vs. Purple E MAT 3 -- Gold A vs. Gold C MAT 4 -- Gold B vs. Gold E (team D -- BYE)
3:00 pm -- ROUND 5 MAT 1 -- Purple A vs. Purple B MAT 2 -- Purple C vs. Purple D MAT 3 -- Gold A vs. Gold B MAT 4 -- Gold C vs. Gold D (team E -- BYE)
5:00 pm -- FINALS -- ROUND 6 MAT 1 -- 1st-place dual -- Purple 1st vs. Gold 1st MAT 2 -- 3rd-place dual -- Purple 2nd vs. Gold 2nd MAT 3 -- 5th-place dual -- Purple 3rd vs. Gold 3rd MAT 4 -- 7th-place dual -- Purple 4th vs. Gold 4th
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Re: Valley Center December Duals
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Whatever the circumstances, Coaches Alley & Church must do whatever it takes to insure that Gentzler and DeShazer wrestle each other if these two teams meet. No football excuses, no juggling in the spirit or alleged spirit of "Doing what is best for the team"...
These two wrestlers will not have an opportunity to meet again the remainder of the season. Take the politics and excuses out of the story and let them decide one on one who is the best 130lber in the state. Please take the monkey off of the Chief's back!
Lets get it on!
Last edited by Cokeley; 11/30/10 05:11 PM.
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Re: Valley Center December Duals
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11/30/10 05:42 PM
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Re: Valley Center December Duals
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12/01/10 12:49 AM
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Doesn't Daniel play football?
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Re: Valley Center December Duals
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12/01/10 08:29 AM
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Doesn't Daniel play football? Daniel did play football for Wichita Heights and the season was completed 11/27/2010 with the 6A State Championship victory over Olathe North. Daniel caught a touchdown pass in the game.
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12/01/10 01:46 PM
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Here is a list of all the ranked teams and wrestlers.
Purple Pool Derby #4 6A W. Heights #2 6A Clay Center #1 4A Chanute #8 4A Ottawa Purple Pool Clay Center-4A 103-3 Jake Roberts Derby-6A 103-6 Jake Greider Derby-6A 112-6 Jeffery Morrow W. Heights-6A 119-3 Connor Neal Clay Center-4A 119-5 Ty Kolterman Chanute-4A 125-2 Tim Wrestler W. Heights-6A 125-6 Barry Newton W. Heights-6A 130-1 Daniel Deshazer Derby-6A 130-2 Skyler Mcomb Clay Center-4A 135-3 Jadye Kolterman Derby-6A 135-4 Brady Heincker Derby-6A 140-2 Bradley Little W. Heights-6A 145-2 Tre Schrimscher Chanute-4A 152-1 Sam Son W. Heights-6A 152-2 Ulyesses DeShazer Clay Center-4A 152-3 Rusty Yarrow W. Heights-6A 160-1 Matt Reed Clay Center-4A 160-4 Colton Easterberg W. Heights-6A 171-2 Dominique Henderson Clay Center-4A 171-2 Jake Delp Clay Center-4A 189-1 Zach Anderson W. Heights-6A 189-2 Hunter Jameson Derby-6A 215-2 Shawn Marlatt Ottawa-4A 215-2 Jordan Oslidal Clay Center-4A 215-5 Dalton Converse Derby-6A 285-3 Travis Anderson Ottawa-4A 285-5 Robert Retzer Gold Pool V. Center And Cent #2 5A Douglas Emporia #9 5A Great Bend
Douglas-3A 103-4 Kordell Burch Great Bend- 5A 103-6 Ryan Deslaurier And Cent-5A 112-1 Zac Gentzler Great Bend- 5A 119-5 Chris Burley And Cent-5A 130-1 Jake Gentzler Emporia-5A 135-1 Brandon Charbonneau And Cent-5A 140-3 Jake Umscheid Emporia-5A 140-4 Noel Torres And Cent-5A 145-1 Alex Bontz V.C.-5A 145-3 Austin Southards Emporia-5A 152-1 Chase Sanchez And Cent-5A 152-4 Josh Miller Great Bend- 5A 152-5 Luois Burley Great Bend- 5A 160-6 Jake Schridde Douglas-3A 189-3 Colt Castleberry
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Re: Valley Center December Duals
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Daniel did play football for Wichita Heights and the season was completed 11/27/2010 with the 6A State Championship victory over Olathe North. Daniel caught a touchdown pass in the game. Doesnt Daniel have to take a mandatory week off? Or am I confused.
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Re: Valley Center December Duals
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12/01/10 04:24 PM
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You are confused. Why would he have to take a mandatory week off?
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Re: Valley Center December Duals
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12/01/10 04:55 PM
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I would not expect to see a Gentzler and DeShazer match.
It seems in the past Heights has focused on the end of the year and not the beginning. Why get all banged up in December when you want to wrestle your best in Feb?
The older I get the better I was!
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12/01/10 05:51 PM
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A six minute match would not necessarily mean getting all banged up. It is certainly understandable that DeShazer will only have had a few practices but being an elite athlete, I'm sure he would compete well.
It is the only chance these two might collide. Yet with the separate pools, their teams may not even meet.
To be clear, Daniel DeShazer is the #1 130 pounder in Kansas.
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Re: Valley Center December Duals
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12/02/10 03:35 AM
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OK, you guys have heard it. Don't worry about doing what is best for your team, put your focus on seeing this "one" match on saturday.
All that needs to happen is for all the schools in Heights pool and those in Centrals pool forfiet to us. That way we can be assured of having "this match of the season" in the first week of competition. Church, you in agreement? I can't understand why the other coaches wouldn't want to see it also. See you in the finals Church, done deal.
Guys, its the first week of the season. I would love to see that match also, but as my wrestlers know, I will not sacrifice the success of the team for one match. If it helps the "TEAM" I bump and always have. Many times over the years I have had wrestlers mad at me for bumping them up against an opponent where they lost a close match and our JV guy won the match at his weight. It produced a result of helping the team win. It taught them that sometimes you sacrifice your position in life to help someone else. Not a bad principle to learn in a world of self gratification.
I don't think Daniel or Jake have any intentions of ducking quality opponents and I know Church as myself have a job of building a team as well as developing individuals. If it happens, I'll enjoy it as much as anyone, but I'll also be counting team points before we ever get to the match.
Oh, I also don't have a problem with Chief carrying that monkey around. I've enjoyed and appreciated his work in the rankings even though I'm sure its a heavy load.
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You've been Coaching how long?
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Re: Valley Center December Duals
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12/02/10 04:45 AM
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Coach Church privately gave me 50 lashes with a wet noodle as well. The only way your two teams meet is if you are in the placing round. The sport is in dire need of publicity and support. The best way to create that is with interest and fan appeal. No one cares which coach is the better genious at jockeying guys around so that they get a mismatch or perhaps gain one or two team points. Most fans don't care which team wins but ALL fans like to see a marquee match up of two division 1 level opponents. This point cannot be argued. The dual meet tournament only exists to squeeze the most matches out of the precious few competition points KSHSAA rations out. In Kansas, wrestling is WAY more about the individual than it is about the team. See KSHSAA State TournamentS for Wrestling... NO DUAL team championship.
It is unfortunate it is the first week of the season but when so few quality match ups exist throughout the season I think the chance should be exploited! Dap is going 135, bump Jake up and make it work. Put the pressure on Church to make the decision.
Will Cokeley (708)267-6615 willcokeley@gmail.com
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Doesn't Daniel play football? The Wichita Eagle's 2010 All-Metro football team Daniel Deshazer, Running Back, Wichita Heights, 5 ft. 4 in., 135 lbs., Sr., 1,123 yards, 13.5 average, 20 TDs
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Re: Valley Center December Duals
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12/02/10 01:48 PM
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"Dap is going 135"
Sorry coach Alley...your out now.. Everybody has to forfiet to Emporia and Heights now so we can see the DeShazer vs Charbonneau.
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12/02/10 02:12 PM
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Well if those 2 are not going to wrestle then why should anyone even go to watch. I'm thinking about not even taking OUR TEAM now since we can't show up to watch that 1 quality match. Oh Yeah we were supposed to compete as well (SARCASM). I think that there will be plenty of great wrestling at this event and it runs smooth. It may not live up to the "quality" standards of others, but it is a top notch dual tournament and Coach Shelton and VC do a great job putting it on. Look at the list above of all the ranked wrestlers in attendance. Which other first week tournament in KS can top this one?
Brandon Pigorsch Head Wrestling Coach Clay Center Community High School
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Chief...Here is another one you might like. Deshazer will either go 135 all year or pull to 125 at some point... Just a 'guess' but I don't think you will see DeShazer at 130 during Regionals or State.
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My call is 35 a few tournaments and then 30.
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Well if those 2 are not going to wrestle then why should anyone even go to watch. I'm thinking about not even taking OUR TEAM now since we can't show up to watch that 1 quality match. Oh Yeah we were supposed to compete as well (SARCASM). I think that there will be plenty of great wrestling at this event and it runs smooth. It may not live up to the "quality" standards of others, but it is a top notch dual tournament and Coach Shelton and VC do a great job putting it on. Look at the list above of all the ranked wrestlers in attendance. Which other first week tournament in KS can top this one? You are right this is probably the toughest when you look at the teams that are going! I also think Gardner is right there with it because of the out of state teams that are there as well as the amount of ranked kids. Omaha-Burke is always tough and this year Platte County will be there! I looked up their 125 pounder, Skyler Wood, on Flowrestling and he is very tough! The 152# bracket is going to be a good one as well with the top 2 ranked kids in the state going head to head. It would be awesome if next year VC could bring in some tough out of state teams to see how our teams compare!
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Skyler is bumping to 130 to wrestle Mario and others. He is absolutely the real deal. One of the best on his feet I have seen. A state champ in MO as a FR and SO. now back as a JR. Also multiple Fargo placer....
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