In 30 years + I have never seen "the choke" called correctly. Follow this complicated logic.

1. Choking is illegal.
2. If a wrestler is unconscience he has been choked.

He should earn 1 point for an illegal hold. (a potentially dangerous hold can always become illegal if it is not stopped), He can't continue because he was put to sleep. Therefore he wins the match.

Duh! 101

Common sense!

Kolat
Shows this move on his website as a take down, where he release the move and spin around his opponents. He also has a disclaimer on how you can choke a guy out. He then show it as a pinning move, if your opponent attempts to tripod out of it. This is shown a lot like the 3/4 nelson we all know, but with a lot more pressure on the top of the neck not the throat.

My only loss my senior year was because I got put in a similar front headlock, lost consciousness, got pinned, and then started convulsing on the mat and woke up a couple minutes later. I love front headlocks and teach them in our room religiously, but that particular front headlock is done with the intention of causing a loss of consiousness. The correct call is 1 penalty point for illegally restricting airflow. The passed out wrestler would not be allowed to continue because he lost consciousness and would therefore win the match.

I would prefer that the ref stop it, so we can continue the match. I know it isn't what you're saying, but noone wants to win a match that way. THey want to wrestle. And they can't wrestle if they ain't conscious........

The only way a ref can really see what is going on is to get down not only on all fours,but with his face near the mat, lookin UP into the throat/neck area. It is very easy to hide if a ref isn't looking for it.

In a match with two refs, it should be much easier to police....

And the front headlock is a very potent weapon, without this type of pressure on the carotid artery or throat. We drill it EVERY night at practice. Head in the hole and butt drag. Plenty of other ways to score also, WITHOUT putting your opponent under.......

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I am surprised that this happens as often as i've witnessed it with 4 coaches and 2 officials at the mat and still get choked out. Yes, the opponents coaches should call it out also. I know our Brawlers coaches would. Great tournament.

It's an interesting watch on Flo between Pixley and Dixon. As Dixon gets the front headlock, Pixley's coach can be heard yelling "Watch the throat, watch the throat".

The irony...

Was not there. Just watched the video.

Were the officials in position? did they change levels to see underneath? I think knuckles and Father Time missed this one.

The Andale coach was out of his seat yelling "that's a choke" emphatically and only a couple feet away from the ref, but the ref allowed the action to continue then called a pin seconds later, disregarding coaches shouts, I wonder how ref felt after seeing Eck dazed and obviously not coherent of what had happened to him.. I too would have liked to see that match minus the choke Eck went right after him and took him down pretty handily!!

Kevin Seybold

I agree...no one want to win that way. But if the refs would make the correct call it might stop people from pulling this kind of BS in the future. Any good wrestler knows when he is restricting blood/air flow. This was done intentionally as a cheap way to beat a good kid. The offending wrestler should have lost the match, and the official is responsible for knowing the rule.

So am I looking at some kind of version of a 3/4 nelson? That move is designed to create extra torque on the the top of the head and back of the neck and not across the throat like this move demonstartes.

The move in question is so obviously a choke hold, I am surprised it has even been debated this long.

The point of this discussion, to me, is that the officials are responsible for the well being of the wrestlers. In both clips the official on the whistle did not position himself to see where pressure was being applied. In the Bobcat match the asst. official looked unsure if he even knew a match was being wrestled. The point is if you don't take your job seriously and if you are physically unable to perform the required duties (getting down on the mat and back up in short order) then retire. We need a an overall evaluation system to develop officials and evaluate their abilities. There is no need for me to go on and on but as far as Pixley is concerned, he was trying to win the match, nothing more. It was the OFFICIALS responsibility to recognize the danger and stop it before it became illegal. When Eck blacked out it IMMEDIATELY became an illegal hold, by rule, and the official, no in judgement but by interpretation made bad calls in both of these matches.

I just watched this for the first time. I watched it two more times because I couldn't believe how fast he went from wrestling to being out. Thinking about it now after seeing it, I would be pretty upset that this happened and did not get reviewed by whatever rules committee that could make an educated decision as to whether it was legal or not. I don't have a lot of experience seeing this particular version of the front headlock, but I think that I have witnessed enough matches and enough front headlocks to know that something didn't look right.

If a kid is choked unconscious then he was in a choke hold and a penalty should be called. That is just common sense.

Tough loss for Eck. Not good to see anyone go to sleep like that.
Congrats to Pixley though, that kid is phenomenal and doesn't get enough recognition. He tore it up at Fargo.

I am a Kanas fan of all sports, and was unable to attend the Classic, but i just got done watching the Lambotte, lapaglia match and was totally amazed. one thing for sure, i will always give credit where credit is due, and this is one of the times.
To me, it looked as though Jesus Christ himself came down and put the leg band on in that match. sometimes things open our eyes and put everything into perspective. now is clarity on what it is to be D1 material, and where everyone else really is.

Darick Lapaglia signed a National Letter of Intent to wrestle for Coach Micheal Denney at Maryville University in St Louis.

He joins 2 of his former Blue Springs teammates (Greg Hegarty & Keenan Hagerty) as a Maryville Saint.

]Wow, maybe he doesn't even know how good he is. Someone, please show him the video.