Top. Hayden kid ff to a girl and a kid got dq'd in the finals.

How many pounds was that kid over at 126 Friday night?

Yeah, what happened with Marc Reiss of Rock Creek at 126? He looked like he might make quite a bit of noise at the state tournament in Salina.

This happened to another wrestler two years ago who was guaranteed a State placing but swelled up throughout the first day of competition and could not make weight that night being DQ'd from the tournament.

Sorry 7lbs over its ridiculous, my thoughts along with many other people , did he actually make weight at home weigh in?

Matt-fan, it was 2 pounds. Not seven.

That girl is a tough wrestler and if you want to stir up discussion on the girl vs boy and Catholic denomination subject their is another thread. She was just as upset that she did not get to wrestle that match than her opponent.

Another qustion: why would a coach enter a wrestler with a 0-14 record---especially if there was the possibility of a FF against a girl wrestler. Seriouusly have to question if the coach should be allowed to continue coaching. As a simple courtesy the coach should have pulled his wrestler after seeding and before the statr of competition.

Any coach would put a wrestler in to try and win team points no matter the record. it's not a question if he should be allowed to coach its simple any wrestler can be beat any day so you have to give your kid a chance to help the team.

Anyone can beat anyone on any given day. Also, if that kid has 14 losses, obviously, he's wrestled 14 matches, making that his spot and he has the right to wrestle his spot at regionals. Kudos to that young man for going and trying his best to make it to the big show!

Any wrestler who finishes the season, having cut weight, gone thru practice and survived the season, deserves to be taken to regionals if the team has a spot for them. Wrestling is a hard sport and win/loss record is not the most important thing. The important thing is the wrestler survived the season. In fact, a wrestler who has an 0-14 record, but stays out for the sport, probably deserves more respect then a state champion. If you can take that kind of beating and still stay out, you are kind of like Paul Newman in Cool Hand Luke and they have my respect. No one else disparage them!!!

In regards to the weight issue, this is a Kansas problem. We allow too many allowances. I am not saying anyone cheats, its just the pound here, pound there you are allowed throughout the season. You get a pound because someone wrestled the night before, and another because someone else wrestled the night before that. Kids frequently never have too make a true weight. Also, kids do not wrestle a weight prior to Christmas, but they certify at that weight - ??? Weigh-ins should be an hour before the meet - in front of a ref like it was years ago.

Well saidJohn. especially the first paragraph.

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Not to be "that guy" but this is pretty funny.

and I agree with your post.

I agree totally John weigh ins should be like they used to be at the sight of the event and 1 hr prior. I think most of us know there are some home weigh ins where some kids make weight but are not actually making weight.

If it had only been 2 pounds a 126 pounder would be able to make weight. I know this because I'm the wrestler who received this default so I know 2 pounds can come off within the alloted time. In this case maybe he wasn't seven but you can't say he was only 2 pounds or I would have had a match.

Another note this is a sport that is focused around making weight shouldn't we all worry more about wrestling and lower the amount of weight we cut just to win. I will admit in previous years I had cut some weight, but realizing this year that when you don't cut weight you have energy and love the sport way more. I feel this sport shouldn't be pushing kids to cut weight just to win. This is just a bad influence on young kids that can cause severe injuries.

The coach did no one a favor by entering the 0-14 9th grade kid: the kid, the girl, or himself, especially if there was a possibility he would later default for non injury reasons. This and the similiar incident at the Mill Valley Regional was very very flagrant bad sportsmanship. The coach should have used some discretion---his team was not going to be a be a strong competitor, nor was his wrestler--no need to flim flam for a couple of useless points.

All that BS about training, making weight, etc was just that, BS

I disagree completely!

Your perogative!!!!

John, Kansas really doesn't do it any differently than many other states. Most use a very comparable system to the one used here. This is Ohio's rule book, you will notice it is nearly identical to the rules here:

"6. GROWTH ALLOWANCE / EXTRA WEIGHT
1. The OHSAA Weight Monitoring Program includes growth allowance. A two-pound growth allowance
will be given on December 25.
2. Growth allowance may not be utilized to achieve a lower minimum weight for a wrestler.
3. In order to utilize the growth allowance, a wrestler shall compete at his/her lowest allowable weight in the
desired weight class at least once prior to using the two-pound growth allowance.
4. A one pound allowance will be give the second day of a two day event.
5. With 48 hours notice, teams will be given a one pound allowance if a team in the event had a match the
day before.
6. In the event of inclement weather and a school is unable to practice the day before a scheduled contest,
each team is granted one additional pound at weigh-ins. See NFHS Rule 4-5-5 page 17 NFHS Wrestling
Rule Book."

Sir, I don't care what the rest of the states do, you remember what your mom told you about jumping off of bridges.

The point is there is a right way to do this. A fair way. A way that doesn't put kids in a spot where, even by following the rules, they have only made their regional weight a couple of times during the season.

It works, I was a terrible wrestler on a good ACCHS team in the late 70's and we made weight. No allowances.

My son is a senior and I really don't care any more, he was 1.5 under this morning. So all is good. But, weigh-ins are a problem that Kansas needs to fix.