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03/04/17 02:10 AM
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Does anyone know what the district alignments are at state this year(1v2 3v4 so on)?
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Re: district alignment at state
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03/04/17 03:51 AM
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Chris Stivers
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believe its 1v3 2v4 might be wrong
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Re: district alignment at state
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03/04/17 01:11 PM
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BigBlue6
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The opinions herein are Mr Bluel's alone and are not that of OSHS, Falcon Empire or any other entity
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Re: district alignment at state
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03/05/17 09:49 PM
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Indianpride
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We wrestle in D2 and I'm a big fan of no subs just our district championships.
My kid is in the big bell curve of kids at 10/u and I just for fun looked at subs for D3 and D4 at my son's weight class. One bracket has 2 kids and the other has 4 kids.
What's the point?
If basically everyone is qualifying for Districts in D3 and D4, then I guess I don't see the need.
I'm sure I'm missing something but it seems unnecessary.
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Re: district alignment at state
[Re: Indianpride]
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03/05/17 10:07 PM
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stoked3351
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It was the subject of a vote in D4. For better or for worse, about 60% of the clubs attending at the D4 annual meeting voted to keep subdistricts, apparently to create an extra tournament for club revenue. Unless something comes down from on high, I'm guessing that will be the process next year, too. At this point, the number of wrestlers just doesn't seem to support a subdistrict tournament any more; the subdistrict tournament is now the size of one of the small regular season tournaments.
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Re: district alignment at state
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03/05/17 11:32 PM
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L.Geyer
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It was the subject of a vote in D4. For better or for worse, about 60% of the clubs attending at the D4 annual meeting voted to keep subdistricts, apparently to create an extra tournament for club revenue. Unless something comes down from on high, I'm guessing that will be the process next year, too. At this point, the number of wrestlers just doesn't seem to support a subdistrict tournament any more; the subdistrict tournament is now the size of one of the small regular season tournaments. Yes if I remember correctly it was a close vote. I think revenue is a big part of this, as well as finding a facility big enough and willing to host a 700-800 kid tournament.
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Re: district alignment at state
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03/06/17 01:38 AM
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How about your casino out there?
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Re: district alignment at state
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03/06/17 02:15 AM
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L.Geyer
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How about your casino out there? I am sure it would probably be big enough. The main thing would be the cost to use it. I have no idea what the casino charges for rent
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Re: district alignment at state
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03/06/17 02:44 PM
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jeremy sekavec
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The one problem we will have is the casino hosts 1A Division II basketball championships this week. We would not be able to get into there or Gross memorial because they have 1A Division I championships. We would have to use a high school with two gyms and pretty of seating.
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Re: district alignment at state
[Re: jeremy sekavec]
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03/06/17 03:06 PM
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greendog
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I don't think the casino would be big enough anyway. When they had the Gunsmoke Nationals there it wasn't very big...decent floor space but not much seating.
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Re: district alignment at state
[Re: Indianpride]
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03/07/17 01:14 AM
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sugar80
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some weighs are low in numbers and some are not
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Re: district alignment at state
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03/07/17 01:17 AM
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sugar80
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I've noticed that many kids from District 1 and 2 seem to be wrestling in a lower weight for Districts. This must be due to only having to make weight twice instead of 3 times. In a way it puts District 3 and 4 at a disadvantage.
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Re: district alignment at state
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03/07/17 01:57 AM
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Daniel DRW
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I've noticed that many kids from District 1 and 2 seem to be wrestling in a lower weight for Districts. This must be due to only having to make weight twice instead of 3 times. In a way it puts District 3 and 4 at a disadvantage. I don't think that has anything to do with it. Everyone has a week in between each weigh in, it's not like they are doing 1 day in a row and we are doing 2 days in a row. There may be advantages/disadvantages with how we are all on different schedules but I just don't see it with regards to weighing in.
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Re: district alignment at state
[Re: Daniel DRW]
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03/07/17 02:55 AM
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BigBlue6
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it has to do with there is no penalty for not making weight this year you can just bump up if you dont make it so it makes sense to register for the lowest weight you want to wrestle try to make it, if you dont, no biggie, just bump. that's why you see kids doing that and yes 2 tournaments instead of 3 makes that easier to accomplish. you only have to get down there twice two weeks apart
The opinions herein are Mr Bluel's alone and are not that of OSHS, Falcon Empire or any other entity
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Re: district alignment at state
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03/07/17 05:55 PM
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stoked3351
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It occurs to me that some of these problems (at least out west) could be resolved by going to an 8 district alignment, like at least one of our neighboring states. I'm not saying that's the solution as it raises some other issues, but I wonder if that option has been seriously discussed.
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Re: district alignment at state
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03/14/17 09:47 AM
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Big Papa
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My understanding of a state bracket has all districts represented in each quarter of the bracket itself. How do they line up? Is it the D1 (1) vs D3 (4) and the D2 (2) vs D4 (3) in the same quarter?
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Re: district alignment at state
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03/14/17 10:53 AM
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Wrestling4
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It is 1v3 and 2v4 this year. Last year it was 1v2 and 3v4
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Re: district alignment at state
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03/14/17 11:15 AM
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Big Papa
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I got that part bromom. A 16 man bracket is decided into quarters. I am asking how the quarter of the brack is aligned. Is it D1 (1 placer) v D3 (4 placer) and D2 (2 placer) v D4 (3 placer)? And another quarter of the baracket D2 (1 placer) v D3 (4 placer) and D1 (2 placer) v D3 (3 placer)! Etc..... Or is the Alingment D1 (1) v D3 (4) and D4 (2) v D2 (3)????
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Re: district alignment at state
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03/14/17 11:52 AM
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Mark J Stanley
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Big Papa...that portion of the bracket is not released until after the completion of all the qualifiers.
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Re: district alignment at state
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03/14/17 12:07 PM
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Otherwise you would have people throwing matches all over the state to avoid being in the quarterfinal match.
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