Nigel, you shouldn't call someone an idiot for betting against Jake. You could just as easily say 'You're an idiot for betting against Luke.' Both are outstanding wrestlers, but there is no way to know who would win. Maybe you could learn something from Jhris and leave the personal attacks in the Abeline mat room.

Once again Dingbat you have no idea what you are talking about so its probably best if you just didn't post anymore at the risk of hurting yourself trying to make yourself seem intelligent. If you knew anything you would know that Aaron and I are pretty good friends. And seeing how we went to rival schools 10 minutes apart and I talk to him quite a bit I think that he understands that joke behind the idiot comment. But why am I explaining this to you? It’s not like you’re going to comprehend it anyway. Now aside from comparing who has the better record in high school, which has faired better in freestyle competition and all that junk which is at best comparative. The question was asked and people will answer how they feel. Perhaps the two will meet up sometime but very unlikely. What I did think was dumb to say is "He weighs 10 pounds more than him so he will dominate" That made me laugh cause I have beaten guys 100 pounds heavier than me, weight is most certainly not a deciding factor in who can beat who, it helps for sure but when you have enough technique its nullified.

Why do your teachers bother explaining anything to you? It is not as if you are going to be able to comprehend run-on sentences, appositives and other punctuation rules, the fact that it is spelled "it's" when it is a contraction and not possessive, and any of the other terribe grammatical errors found in this one sentence of your post. Cripes, I bet their red Sharpies run dry when grading your papers.

On a lighter note, thank you so much for imparting on all forum readers your infinite wrestling wisdom. We would all be completely lost without you. Seig heil, Nigel!!

Post Script: You shouldn't start a sentence with the word "but." It kind of makes you look like a dummy.

It's like one idiot claiming another idiot is an idiot not realizing he too is truly an idiot.

Thank you,
Another Idiot

You spelled 'truly' wrong.

Sincerly,
Idiot #2

I would have to agree to agree w/the great one cause Zouzas is a bad a** and i don't see anyone close to him

Nigel I think that Luke only has maybe 1-3 losses in his career. The only loss I know of is his loss to Metzler his freshman year in the finals. Who else has he lost to? Also, the only year that he wrestled freestyle he took 4th at Cadets. Kreigbaum has only AA in Greco. So where are Keigbaum's accolades out shining Zousas's? Also, for your info. 10 lbs makes a huge difference when two wrestlers of this calliber collide. It would be a good argument if they were the same size. I'm gonna take Zousas winner by 10 lbs.

So finally some people have my side of the argument, yes zouzas would beat him now w/ a 10lbs on him and also even for some magical reason they were the same weight, a close match would be zouzas and grater, kreigbam couldnt wrestle with guys of that calibure......even if they were all the same weight

Just some food for thought. Mr. Zouzas whom I think is a pretty darn good wrestler has won his state championships in the 5A class which we all know is pud compared to 4A. To be perfectly fair some of the matches Jake has had at state weren't awsome wrestlers. However last year none of the guys he wrestled had more than 5 loses except for his first round opponent. However Lukas' opponents went in this order 17 loeses, 12 loses, 8 loses, 12 loses. If you ask me thats not very much competition. To Lukas' credit he did beat Gilliand by 1 point at Beloit, but that could have gone either way. I think the real inssue is if these two are never going to meet, haven't wrestled common opponents why are we sittin here arguing over who will beat who. I never once in this forum said that Jake would beat Lukas, and I certainly didn't say he would "Dominate" him. I simply said to Aaron that it would be foolish to bet against Jake, simply becuase I know it's very difficult to beat him when he is on his game. Everyone else on he is quick to jump to the fact they they know Lukas would beat Jake, I say prove it! Othersise don't use stupid words like dominate. If you going to say anything in this forum it should be phrased, "In my opinion, I think (Blank) would win between the two, for (Blank) reasons" thats far more respectful to both of them. Quite frankly I think the whole subject should be dropped since there is no way of knowing and they probably aren't going to wrestle each other.

Nigel, I couldn't find it on a map...where is Abeline? LOL

For once I agree with Nigel it is stupid to say things like "dominate" and "I know" when they should say "my opinion is...". I mean predicting outright who would win a match like that is almost as stupid as saying something like "...5A which we all know is pud compared to 4A" when you should say, "In my opinion, I think (blank) is a better division than (blank), for (blank) reasons." Not that I want to bring up the same old argument again because we all know we have facts and statistics that can prove whatever our opinion is.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dingbat:
[QB] You spelled 'truly' wrong.

And in your previous post you spelled 'sentence' wrong. Rather ironic huh?

Yeah we've already been over the hypocritical spelling nazi arguements before. Aaron I have no idea where Abeline is, it sure as heck isn't in Dickenson county. (yes that county is spelled that way for a reason if yo uget the joke)

When I stop laughing at this thread and all the fun posts could someone, perhaps Nigel explain the definition of "Idiot". I love ybsmall's post. No! seriously could someone explain what the definition of an idiot is. I work as a Parole Administrator and used to think I had an idea but I'm confused now.

i would have to agree that zouzas and krigbaum would be a great match but were never gonna see that so i am really looking forward towatchin zouzas and cornejo at state and yes zouzas is awesome but i think conejo will beat him.

Zouzas has lost 3 times that i can think of. Freshman year to Metzler as before-mentioned. Also his freshman year to Portenier (sp?) of Hill City in the finals of Beloit and a year later to Grater at Beloit in the semi's (I think it was the semi's).

jfink - That was funny and oh so true. Your post makes me smile.

Ahh...the delicious irony.

On the other hand, after posting I immediately noticed my mistake and edited my post.

I believe prater beat Kreigbaum this summer in freestyle , there has been quite a bit of discussion in the last few months concerning the
summer season and its importance so that loss should count for something.

Ahhhhhh... edited it to what?

As of 945pm - 2/19/04 it is still spelled incorrectly [see direct quote below]. Again, quite ironic for someone that wants to be the forum spelling police...

Post Script: You shouldn't start a sentance with the word "but." It kind of makes you look like a dummy.

It kind of makes you look like a dummy when you say you edited your post and yet it is STILL wrong...

Oh yes - irony of ironies...

But now, back to WRESTLING - I think pound for pound that Cody Garcia is the best in KS. His destroying of Knox at the SS tourney was most impressive. [I mean no disrespect to you Mr. Knox. You are about a hundred times better than I ever was during my sorry wrestling career.]