Should Title IX be changed, or even nullified altogether?

does anybody have any information on Title IX and its effects, its history, anything at all. I have to write a paper for English, and this sounds like a good topic.

The problem with Title IX is not how it is written, but how it is enforced. According to Title IX there are 3 different ways to be compliant, but the enforces only look at one thing, # of scholarships!!
The people doing the enforcing need to get a clue and read the legislation!

One would think that with the rise of wrestling popularity, including among women, that a college that actually added a wrestling program to include men and women would see a significant increase in student enrollment, thus more funds for their institution.

Title IX was written for the right reason. However, as with most government mandated programs, it has been taken to the extreme and now works against itself.

Nelly-
Here is a website all about Title IX in the NCAA. Good luck with your paper.

http://www1.ncaa.org/membership/ed_outreach/gender_equity/index.html

By the way, while you are looking at the above mentioned site, note the following: While schools offering wrestling programs have decreased by 40% in the last twenty years, what has girls rowing done?

If you look at the National Federation of High Schools stats and then the NCAA stats, one interesting point jumps out at you: There are only about 2000 girls competing in high school rowing nation-wide, while there are about 6500 girls competing in NCAA rowing. To me this means that universities have recruited about 4500 girls with no prior experience or interest in rowing just to satisfy some twisted need to fill a quota.

Don't even get me started on girls bowling...LOL

Rowing SUCKs

In reply to "Bulldog Dad" who does not know why wrestling gets "crapped on". The answer is money! College sports has the money making sports and the non-revenue making sports. Unfortunately for the sport we both love wrestling is in the latter category. When budgets get tight and accountants say "what can we cut that costs a lot but brings not much in" wrestling is top on the list. Not that I like it but that is the way it is.

You've got to look at he facts. The volleyball coach has been a coach there for like 15 years while I think it was the football coach had only been there for 3 and was making considerably more money.

The fact is football puts butts in the beds in the dorms, volleyball is .....well volleyball. Football keeps the doors open in small colleges and volleyball is .....volleyball, get real. If she makes 40 big ones coaching volleyball she is the luckiest person on the planet. The reason all those wrestling programs got cut is so that they DID NOT have to add another womens sport. It kept them from adding by subtracting wrestling, gymnastics, mens swimming, diving, lots of sports got the axe so that they DID NOT HAVE TO ADD ANOTHER GIRLS SPORT! Do you really think in dollars and cents that the womens volleyball coach or the mens rowing coach is ever going to earn as much as the mens football coach who can get fired in one year for losing. She can lose for the rest of the milliniom and not get fired and there is a reason for that. NOBODY CARES!

Reply to: "The answer is money!"

Believe it or not, I DID know the answer..
But I do not, nor will I ever buy in to that. Let's get real. Does anyone think that women's rowing, bowling, archery, etc. are revenue-producing?

Furthermore, if the program is not filled with full-ride athletes, how much money could be tied up in a wrestling program other than a Coach's salary? It probably costs more to outfit 5 or 6 FB players than it does to purchase a good quality mat. And singlets and head-gear are going to break the bank?

It's really all about profile. Until we can figure out some way to put some butts in seats, and get some TV time (other than the annual ESPN hack-up of the NCAA's), we are going to be step-children.

And my figure of 40% decrease is accurate, based on NCAA participation study. That's in participating schools. Total student participation is actually only down 28% from 1981-2000.

Just for fun, here's another little tidbit: There were already more women in NCAA BB than men in NCAA wrestling clear back in 1981.

It is in the NCAA's best interest to mimimize the damage in court of Title IX. Guess what, they lie, they lie a lot, and they make a lot of money. Football needs to be taken out of the equation. It is the cash cow. The NCAA doesn't want to face the fact that their are EXACTLY one half as many programs today as there were the day Title IX came out. Many of them blamed the cutting of programs on other factors to keep themselves out of legislation. If you think the NCAA is a truth finding group then the Easter Bunny will have something nice for you this year. Title IX has been an disaster for mens sports of all kinds and football is not the problem, football keeps the doors open at a lot of schools around the country. We just need a little common sense instead of all this political posturing. The NCAA and the major league baseball owners have two things in common, they lie, and they are money making organizations. It is in their best interst to lie. Sort of like Enron huh. But you can believe everything that comes from them if you like... if it helps your argument to do so.

By the way there are more taxi drivers then their are astronauts. Must make driving a taxi the clear winner in the personal worth department huh.

Sorry for the misspelled words but like Ray, I have no idea how to get back in and edit them lol.

Westfahl, I have to — at least partially — disagree. Football does have to shoulder some of the blame for what has happened to non-revenue men's sports.
Why does a Division I college football team need as many people on full-rides as they have? Why do they need that many assistant coaches? Why do many of them have to spend the night before home games in some fancy hotel? Why? Because they can get away with it. Everyone's afraid of football.
Who cares if the fourth-team right tackle is going to school for free? How many of those 80-100 scholarship players are EVER going to see the field?
At the current time, the University of Northern Iowa splits 10 full scholarships among the 31 wrestlers on the team. I believe the University of Iowa has 12 to 15 for 35 kids. The seniors and top kids earn what full rides are given while the others split money between them — sometimes getting only books and fees one semester.
Coach, I will grant you that Title IX has hurt wrestling a great deal; there is no question about that. But to give football a free pass is wrong — they can afford to share a little of the wealth when it comes to scholarships.

The question is who's books can you believe? I don't know if many of you have seen recent D1 athletic revenue disclosures but you talk about "creative accounting"!

Having spent seven years coaching college football, I can tell you that we needed at least 50 players who could play on game day. That includes all specialists as well as the twenty two starters and the special teams guys. Oh yeah they could play both ways and all those teams but they would be injured in about two weeks and that would be the season. You have to have at least that many in the pipeline, I mean you don't just take 50 through four years and start all over. You have to coach them because it takes a heck of a high level of proficiency to play college football I mean it is specialized you know. Last year the division one football tv packages for all cable and broadcast tv put together totalled well over 3 billion dollars. The University of Nebraska paid for an entire science wing with football money. Their professors are being paid with quite a bit of football money. They ain't scared of it partner, they cant do without it. Most of the wrestling programs were sustaining themselves with private donations, friends of the Universities, fund raising, and gate. I promise you they cut them because title IX was going to make them match sports numbers of sports men and women and they didnt want to add womens sports. Football sustains itself. It pays its way, they get the devil beat out of them to play it, its a wash. How many does it take to make a girls basketball team, volleyball team, ah heck this is common sense.

Coach, I understand what you're saying, but you missed my point.
Will there really be any less money coming in to these football factories if 20 or 30 guys at the bottom of the roster aren't getting full rides? People don't watch on TV or buy tickets to see the benchwarmers, they're there to watch the starters. If a kid comes in even with a half-ride the first year, a good freshman year might earn him a little more.
No one is denying what D-I football has meant to these universities. But, 100 full rides? C'mon, this is like your rich brother refusing to loan you money, while suggesting you rob the neighbors to get some. Give back 20 full rides and football will never miss them.

Yeah I think when everyone starts looking like a division II team and the product becomes a whole lot less than it is now, it will be worth a whole lot less than it is now.

The point I am making is that those twenty full rides pay for themselves about a hundred times over. Those womens sports don't pay for anything except at about three or four places in the country. None of those wrestling teams they cut were griping cause they didnt get those twenty scholarships they knew the deal. They would have wrestled with no scholarships but they didnt have that option. The girls do now dont they. We didnt have that chance.