I read on the net that Luke Page of Prarie View got beat the first round.

Not really an upset he was just wrestling sloppy on the mat and the guy countered him.
Unranked 189# from Minneapolis wins state, not an unset either, just unexpected.

The action at the state finals was great. Special kudos go out to 3 wrestlers I was particularly impressed with. #1. Nathan Payne Paola. Congrats on your championship season. You are an example of what we all hope our wrestlers can be. Keep up the great work. I'm sure more awesome wrestlimg from you is to come over the next two years. #2. Nick Figge Turner With a heartbreaking loss in the finals, you displayed good sportsmanship, and grace and class. You gained my respect more in your defeat, than you possibly could have in victory. I'm sure your future is bright in any endeavor you choose because you are a winner under any circumstance. #3. Chris Glenn Bishop Ward What an impressive wrestler you are. Understanding that this is only your second full season to wrestle, you sure did accomplish a lot in a short time. That 189 lb. bracket was full of fine athletes, but it is an understatement to say that you stood out amoung them.

Mortimer from Minneapolis is a good wrestler,but the top side of the 189 bracket was pretty easy,the bottom bracket ended up stacked!!He won and for him I'm glad but I have to wonder if there isn't a better way to even out these brackets so it is a little more fair.

He beat the best guy from the other side, right?

I guess I should clarify myself a little the top side of 189 had the number 4 and 6 ranked guy in the state and the bottom side had number 1,2,3and 5.One and two had to wrestle each other the first round.The bottom side had tough matches,Douglas went in with only 2 losses,Swhiart with 3,and Dinkel with two losses.They also had the Hoxie kid,who at one time was ranked.This bracket was terribly uneven.

Yes he did beat Douglas,and wrestled the best match I've ever seen him wrestle!!My point was the bottom side Had alot of tough matches coming through,his side was not so hard,you could tell he was much more fresher than Douglas,Douglas was winded after 1 round.Having easy matches and having really tough ones does make a difference after two days.

How about Pruitt at 171 in 1-2-3A I think he was 3 and he won it.

Pruitt did a good job,his match with Faught was great...it probably should of been the Championship match but they too ended up on the same side of the bracket.He did a great job.I knew he could win it if he could get past Faught.

The only ranking that means anything is the one at the end of the season. Seeding a state tournament would be difficult. The most equitable way is the way that it is done now. Look at some of the weight classes. 4A at 112 for example. How tough do you think that regional was? 1-2-3 from the same region, yet it worked out like it was supposed to, probably. At the state tournament, you MUST look past records, as the only true test is head to head. Yet, how many wrestlers have gone head to head against most of the field? Very few. To be a champion, you have to beat everyone. There has been some talk of challenges, such as a #3 finisher challenging a runner up that have not yet met. Personally, I am very much against that as the #3 kid would have a tremendous emotional advantage over a kid that has just lost a state championship match. Everybody, from EVERY region, claims that theirs is the strongest. The state tournemant clears up everything. Now, heres a question....would there be different results if you seeded it exactly the same and wrestled again next weekend? Absolutely!

Understand I am glad Mortimer beat Douglas,I was rooting for him,however it does make a difference getting into the finals if the bracket is strongly lopsided,he made it into the finals in good shape where the bottom side had some dog fights coming through,in the end he wrestled the best match he ever had and won it,he is the state champion...anyone will tell you to win state you have to wrestle your best match and with it have a little luck in the draw when it comes to the brackets...he did just that!My point was that 189 bracket was not just a little lopsided,but extremely lopsided,Douglas,Swhiart,Dinkel,Speer were all really good wrestlers and really fought out that bottom brackets.Mortimer didn't have those kind of challenges.....however I am glad he won it!And it does make a differnce on how fresh you are when you wrestle that final match after two days of dogfights!

Honestly, I think that once your at the state level, everyone you wrestle is going to be an exeptionally good wrestler. Once you are at the state level, competition is pretty weeded out. I dont care who is wrestling, or what side of the bracket they are on, it is tough to make it to the state finals. However, I can see the ploy that it ***** that 1 and 2 were on the same side of the bracket, that probly shouldnt happen

yes they should not be on the same side but that is the system we are in now. The thing is, you have to beat everyone to win the thing. If that is in the first round or the Finals the job of winning still has to be done.

You had 1,2,3,and 5 on one side,he had to go through number 6 to get to the finals.If I were to wrestle that bracket I would of been thrilled to see that happen.He did get lucky,he took second at regionals and ended up with the best route through state than any of the others,which goes to show you don't have to win your regionals to get an excellent seeding!I did enjoy him beating Douglas tho,he had lost to Douglas earlier by a huge score.If there was anytime to shine it was then! Congrats Jeff!

I would have to say Drennan beating Pyle handly was probably an upset to many,fanatic for one,however it was not an upset for me,I knew he would pull this one off!This was another match that should of been the finals as they both were seeded on the same side,after the 1 period it was all Drennan!!

First of all Great job to all of the minneapolis wrestlers. Outstanding performance in the finals all the way through. Second of all i think that the rankings put out don't mean a darn thing. Only one coach does them anyways. Sure the state needs to find a way to seed the tournament differently because everyone knows that drennan and pyle should have been on differnt sides of the bracket. But at 189, If douglas and swihart would have saved themselves the trouble and won their regionals then they wouldn't have ended up wrestling each other in the first round. And if everyone thinks douglas had such tough matches all the way through the tournament go back and check the scores to Mortimer's quarter and semi finals matches. Maybe douglas should have gotten a little more sleep friday night. As for Speer, wasn't all he was talked up to be

Yeah your right all the ranked kids in the bottom bracket just weren't any good.None of them deserved their rankings with 2 losses and 3 losses.

I guess Speer being a two time state placer means he's no good also.

Speer sure wrestled like he was a 2 time placer let me tell you. And I didn't say they weren't any good i just said that the top side wasn't as week as you say it was. and douglas and swihart still did't win their regionals.

i don't want to argue about this because we both are for the same teams but the fact of the matter is that douglas should have won his regional being ranked #1 in the state and swihart should have won his being ranked 2nd. their seedings at state was in their hands but they lost