toughest league CTL/AVL Bar none
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Trant Cox 103 Andale 4A 9th 2nd Zach Peters 103 Augusta 4A 9th 5th Chad Harding 103 Winfield 5A 10th 6th Micah Ankenman 103 Hutchinson 6A 11th 3rd Garrett Gage 112 Mulvane 4A 11th 1st Ryan Canale 112 Rose Hill 4A 11th 5th Devin Slane 112 Andover 4A 12th 6th Trison Graham 112 Arkansas City 5A 10th 1st Mark Zivala 112 Wich. Hay. Campus 6A 12th 4th Tyler Caldwell 112 Goddard 6A 9th 5th Cale Demel 119 El Dorado 4A 10th 3rd Dustin Bowen 119 Rose Hill 4A 11th 4th Dalton Caldwell 119 Salina Central 5A 12th 4th Blake Fisher 125 Andale 4A 12th 2nd Ryan Salee 125 Valley Center 5A 11th 6th Russell Freeman 125 Goddard 6A 12th 4th Brent Fisher 130 Andale 4A 10th 1st Wes Barrett 130 El Dorado 4A 12th 2nd Nick Northern 130 Salina South 5A 12th 1st Kirk Godfrey 130 Arkansas City 5A 11th 4th Chase Moses 130 Goddard 6A 12th 3rd Brandon Imel 130 Hutchison 6A 12th 5th Jess Lee 135 Andover Central 4A 10th 4th Thomas Pipes 135 Winfield 5A 12th 2nd Dallas Nelson 135 McPherson 5A 11th 5th Brad Traina 135 Goddard 6A 12th 1st Danny Dawson 140 Wellington 4A 12th 6th Levi Sides 140 McPherson 5A 12th 3rd Aaron Hynick 145 Rose Hill 4A 11th 2nd Jayme Hoover 145 Salina South 5A 11th 2nd Romero Cotten 145 Hutchison 6A 9th 1st Nathan Thibault 145 Maize 6A 11th 2nd Brandon Bonewell 145 Goddard 6A 10th 3rd Scott Elliot 152 Augusta 4A 10th 1st Judd Schroeder 152 Andale 4A 11th 2nd Nick Barnes 152 Valley Center 5A 12th 3rd Boaz Beard 152 Goddard 6A 9th 3rd Todd Bullinger 152 Derby 6A 11th 6th Nate Alvarez 160 Salina South 5A 12th 3rd Kirk Fairley 160 Derby 6A 11th 1st Zach Hentzen 160 Maize 6A 11th 2nd John Chrisman 160 Wich. Hay. Campus 6A 12th 4th Pete Eck 171 Andale 4A 10th 2nd Beau Williams 171 Valley Center 5A 12th 2nd Anthony Fiorillo 171 Salina South 5A 12th 5th Ben Evans 171 Hutchison 6A 10th 4th Jake Clark 189 Buhler 4A 11th 5th Cint Bruce 189 Arkansas City 5A 10th 5th Chad Posch 189 Goddard 6A 11th 3rd Atticus Disney 215 Andover Central 4A 10th 1st Jared Siemer 215 Rose HIll 4A 12th 5th Jordan Pfenninger 215 Buhler 4A 12th 6th Elijah Madison 275 Salina Central 5A 10th 2nd Justin Naccarato 275 Valley Center 5A 12th 3rd Micheal Chavez 275 Derby 6A 12th 6th
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Re: toughest league CTL/AVL Bar none
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01/14/06 07:53 PM
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This is one of those questions that could be debated forever and no answer ever found. However another league that needs consiered is the NWKL. St. Francis, Atwood, Oberlin, Oakley, Colby, Goodland, Quinter and Hoxie. Nearly every team a perennial 3-2-1A and 4A powerhouse.
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Re: toughest league CTL/AVL Bar none
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01/14/06 08:36 PM
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The NWKL is composed 8 teams, the CTL/AVL is composed of 24 teams. I know it's comparing apples to oranges, but it seems per capita the ratio in the NWKL appears better. 54 ranked wrestlers from CTL/AVL (Madison is gone so you cannot count him) divided between the 24 teams equals to be 2.25 ranked wreslers per team. 26 ranked wrestlers represent the 8 NWKL teams, giving you a 3.25 ranked wrestlers per team ratio. They are just figures not based upon anything.
Trevor Richard 119 2nd Dylan Lloyd 135 1st Justin Sherlock 140 5th Jordan Gienger 145 3rd Brennan Wilger 275 2nd Matt Migchelbrink 119 3rd Jonathan Richards 140 2nd Denton Bailer 152 4th Scott Miller 160 3rd Terry Urban 171 5th Brock Euhus 275 4th Steve Samuelson 112 5th Kelly Younkin 145 5th Kyle Rietchek 189 1st Aaron Racette 215 4th Bryan Brewer 103 3rd Cole Garcia 140 1st Taylor Finley 152 4th Brett Bahe 119 1st AJ Stephans 135 2nd Jon Cook 160 2nd Josiah Goodley 189 4th Bobby Doxon 275 4th Tyler Baker 130 1st Michael Schamberger 152 1st Tim Erwin 215 3rd
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Re: toughest league CTL/AVL Bar none
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01/14/06 09:48 PM
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Since the CTL/AVL has 24 teams and very few leagues have that many, lets even the odds a bit and make them face the NWKL and NCKL combined team (NCKL: Abilene, Clay Center, Chapman, Wamego, Concordia, Marysville).
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Re: toughest league CTL/AVL Bar none
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01/15/06 12:15 AM
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Thats all pretty good but I am guessing that somebody forgot to catch you all up to speed Nick Nothern is wrestling at 125 not 130
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Re: toughest league CTL/AVL Bar none
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01/15/06 12:43 AM
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acbulldog, Unless I am mistaken this thread was about the toughest league. What does having a dual between a league with 8 teams and one with 24 have to do with anything? A league is a team concept comprised of towns. You printed up individuals in a dual. Not a bad idea but the wrong thread.
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Re: toughest league CTL/AVL Bar none
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01/15/06 03:11 AM
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this isn't about a dual? did you not understand that? You showed all the ranked guys from the CTL/AVL league, I just showed the NWKL and some stuipd numbers....
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Re: toughest league CTL/AVL Bar none
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01/15/06 04:53 AM
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I think it's a lost cause Bronco.
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Re: toughest league CTL/AVL Bar none
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01/15/06 07:07 AM
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Originally posted by acbulldog: And I was just showing the avl/ctl would dominate, and your the one that said the nwkl was better, off your stupid numbers. as I said it was just stupid numbers... they mean nothing... I didn't say they were better, I said they looked better on paper... and just to remind you this is NOT about a dual(el)!
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Re: toughest league CTL/AVL Bar none
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01/15/06 07:08 AM
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Originally posted by acbulldog: Come on now bronco don't you have a novice tourny you need to go officiate. Actually I officiated the Atwood Kid's Wrestling Tournament today, so I am already off work.
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Re: toughest league CTL/AVL Bar none
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01/16/06 11:54 PM
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Pure number wise Bronco wrestler has the upper hand here with a 3.25 vs a 2.25. Minus Maddison Salina Central but you have to add Furches from Derby. Although it only improves the number to 2.29
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Re: toughest league CTL/AVL Bar none
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01/18/06 03:26 AM
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yea i know look at their easy competition i mean there's all those easy nwkl schools out there and norton and all those colorado teams wow. Seriously dude some of those schools travel to colorado and nebraska and face state champs and you tell me that isn't competition
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Re: toughest league CTL/AVL Bar none
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01/18/06 01:49 PM
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You are so right acbulldog. Anyone in the wrestling community knows that Western Kansas has no real talent and no real competition. I mean come on, everyone knows that kids from Norton, Colby, Goodland, Hoxie, Oberlin, Scott City, Garden City ect. don't know how to wrestle. Oh and don't forget about the NCKL teams. I hear they are a bunch of pushovers too with teams such as Concordia, Abilene and Clay Center. In all reality, you really need to get out of your little corner of the state and go west young man. Then you can judge.
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Re: toughest league CTL/AVL Bar none
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01/18/06 01:57 PM
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acbulldog your opinion is taking a beating on here. Seems a lot more ppl. think the NWKL and NCKL is a tougher league. I am now LOL about the comment about those kids not wrestling tough competition. Were you actually serious?
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Re: toughest league CTL/AVL Bar none
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01/18/06 06:54 PM
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How about anothe kind of dual. An All-Star dual. West vs East. East wouldn't have a snowballs chance....
Your Mom Goes to College.
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Re: toughest league CTL/AVL Bar none
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01/18/06 06:55 PM
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How about anothe kind of dual. An All-Star dual. West vs East. East wouldn't have a snowballs chance....
Your Mom Goes to College.
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Re: toughest league CTL/AVL Bar none
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01/18/06 06:55 PM
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How about another kind of dual. An All-Star dual. West vs East. East wouldn't have a snowballs chance....
Your Mom Goes to College.
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Re: toughest league CTL/AVL Bar none
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01/18/06 07:26 PM
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Thats a crazy comment. East is just as good. Where is East/West anyway for clarification?
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Re: toughest league CTL/AVL Bar none
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01/18/06 08:51 PM
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Re: toughest league CTL/AVL Bar none
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01/18/06 10:37 PM
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yes, because we all know that as soon as you go west of wichita, everybody is a farmer, and they herd goats/sheep.
Maybe you're not an ugly human, but a good looking ape.....with exceptional verbal skills.
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