Re: 2006 All Star team?
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08/26/05 09:50 PM
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Originally posted by notimer: first off, i dont think pat mosley is the BEST 103 lber in high school, im thinking altman is better. Deshazer will be going 130 or so ive heard. scott elliot ? didnt he go undefeated and win state? as a freshman...?. loos ? even if he goes 45, you count him out? pfannenstiel?- didnt place a newton. madison? did he even win state. just a thought doing all-kansas team is impossible in wrestling there is so many factors to look at and it is more than 3 months from the season. until we see what weight people are going, its kinda pointless to talk about who is the best! Mosley won't be anywhere near 103 this year guaranteed. Deshazer made 125 for Nationals, makes you wonder why he wouldn't do it for High School? Elliot is good, no contest there. I think though if he's at 135, Baker or Esterl could challenge him. He is a good candidate though and should make a lot of lists. 140/145 might be a little tougher to make the list. Loos was at 152 last year so I'm not sure if 145 is really an option right now? I may be wrong but we'll see. Still a good choice but I think that Garcia of Colby is better. Pfannenstiel of Norton is tough, already have a couple state medals, just because he didn't place at Newton doesn't mean anything? If that's what you were implying. Madison, is a stud. Losing 3-2 to Payne in the finals, and he'd already beaten Jessen earlier in the year. Finishing 27-2 as a freshman in Heavyweight is an achievement and being the State Runner-up? I think that speaks for itself as to why he's considered a "Front-Runner" as well. Alex
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Re: 2006 All Star team?
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08/26/05 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by Chase: Originally posted by notimer: doing all-kansas team is impossible in wrestling there is so many factors to look at and it is more than 3 months from the season. until we see what weight people are going, its kinda pointless to talk about who is the best! Maybe...but its fun to discuss It's not impossible. Wait until after the FHSU tournament and I'll give you one! Alex But yea until then it's fun
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Re: 2006 All Star team?
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08/26/05 09:54 PM
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Altman will be at 112, or 119. I would also say don't forget about Garrett Miller who was out last year. Depending on where he is at he could be a tough 103-119.
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Re: 2006 All Star team?
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08/27/05 04:30 PM
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isn't Guy Miller coming back at heavyweight? also i think Deshazer is at the point where he can go at whatever weight he wants and win.
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Re: 2006 All Star team?
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08/27/05 05:59 PM
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I don't think he could win heavyweight.
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Re: 2006 All Star team?
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08/27/05 08:19 PM
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hmmm good point it is fun.. if we could play around with it, making people cut a lot of weight. 103-hansen 112- ely 119- madden 125- deshazer 130- baker 135- elliot/ younkin 140- garcia 145- loos 152- schroder 160- jonas 171- erisman 189- strawn 215- edison 275- payne
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Re: 2006 All Star team?
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08/27/05 08:22 PM
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oh and off the record. deshazer told me he was going 30
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Re: 2006 All Star team?
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08/27/05 10:03 PM
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off the record, I heard Guy Miller might not wrestle next year, he has no desire...? Not quoting a specific source but was told by a very respectable source.
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Re: 2006 All Star team?
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08/27/05 10:45 PM
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guy miller at 275! he lost in double overtime to sprigg, madison lost like 11-5
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Re: 2006 All Star team?
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08/29/05 11:41 AM
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Guy Miller is the man at Hvy... he took Sprigg to the coin toss twice last year, and dominated 4a last year, also has been a placer when he has been healthy, believe he was third as a frosh, losing to Bedore of Goodland,then had a knee reconstructed the year that Scott City won as a team... hard to beleive that he would sit out his Sr. year but I reckon stranger things have happened. If he comes back, I would think that you would have to respect his record and placement history and place him at the top of 275, Madison may be better but has never had the opportunity to prove it in a match, and as has been stated before did prove that he was not close to the ability of mr. Sprigg.
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Re: 2006 All Star team?
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08/29/05 01:09 PM
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Bronco and Trego wrestler I think Younkin may have graduated.
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Re: 2006 All Star team?
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08/29/05 07:01 PM
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Miller probably is looking to play football in college and doesn't want to get hurt during wrestling season. Either that or graduating at semester.
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Re: 2006 All Star team?
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08/30/05 02:14 AM
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Yes LEVI Younkin graduated. Kelly his younger brother didnt graduate hes a soph.
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Re: 2006 All Star team?
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08/30/05 04:45 AM
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Originally posted by rasslenfanatic: Bronco and Trego wrestler I think Younkin may have graduated. I was talking about Kelly Younkin. Levi Younkin is attending Colby Community College.
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Re: 2006 All Star team?
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09/04/05 05:09 AM
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What is all the hype about Madison........He wont even make weight
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Re: 2006 All Star team?
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09/04/05 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by thirdone: What is all the hype about Madison........He wont even make weight How much is he weighing? John Paul Shepherd who was a pretty good heavyweight cut from 315 to 275 almost yearly.
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Re: 2006 All Star team?
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09/05/05 03:20 PM
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If you guys dont remember. Payne was in superior shape last year and Madison quit the last 30 seconds of that match...Payne wrestled a cautious match but one easily despite the score......i will make a prediction that he wins a third state championship like his older brother
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Re: 2006 All Star team?
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09/05/05 08:48 PM
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i have no idea if its accurate or not but salina central's football roster has madison listed at 283. so thats no problem for 275...plus football rosters usually add a few pounds..but who knows.
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Re: 2006 All Star team?
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09/06/05 04:53 AM
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thirdone-
It was dissappointing to watch the way Madison finished in the last 30 seconds of the match. If you don't lock up with him you have a great chance of beating him plain and simple.
Brenvoth-
I agree on your assesment. I look foreward to Elijah being back this year.
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Re: 2006 All Star team?
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09/06/05 08:13 PM
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Madison is a defensive wrestler who waits for others to make mistakes he can capitalize on. If you wrestle smart and have an offense he is beatable which Payne proved last year and will again if they meet. The score of their match does not tell the whole story, you would have had to see it. Payne was by far the superior wrestler!
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