Just wanted to hear comments about Lacer's (Junction City)disqualification at 6A Regional for biting Dikin (Emporia)

Obviously, he should not have bit him. If he did, and the kid had teeth marks, the referees are left with no choice in this one and acted in the appropriate manner.

I'll have to ask Lacer's mom about it, she is one of my nurses from chemo and I'm due for a checkup this week.

A little irony here is the 112 pound young man from Dodge city. Earlier in the season at the Garden City Tourney he was bitten rather aggressively by an opponent and even though was able to show the bite mark, the incident was disallowed because he chose to wrestle out the match and try to win instead of quitting at the time of the incident and protesting. At his regional tournament, I understand that he was ejected for applying a crossface to his opponent in such a way that caused the opponent's lip to bleed. the opponent protested even though he was already winning. I gotta feel for that kid, he and his supporters must feel pretty betrayed by whatever rules there are about protecting a wrestler in Kansas. I applaud the ejection of any wrestler that is in flagrant infraction, but I believe that there should be a procedure that would allow appeal of those matters. In the case of a bite with marks on the wrestler, that indeed should be a no-brainer. in other cases of official judgement, the termination of a wrestlers season for an infraction that is not recognized when it happens should be very carefully considered before an ejection should be allowed. With a bite, I say heave the guy with no questions asked. otherwise, I think not. I saw plenty of actions that were considerably less than sportsmanlike at the 4a regional at Colby, Saw one team that on two occasions applied Illegal figure 4 to the head and neck to take a 1 point penalty instead of giving up a takedown, That move is illegal because very, very serious injury can result from its application, but the apparent coaching decision was that the opponent's physical danger was of no consequence compared to losing a takedown. That, in my opinion, is much worse than bad behavior by a wrestler, it is the action of a coach that certainly has been around long enough to know better, and reflects very poorly on his program.

Did the ref see one wrestler bite the other or was one wrestler just able to show bite marks. I saw a wrestler thrown out one time because a wrestler bit himself. Now i'm not saying thats what happened but I feel like the ref has to see the wrestler bite the other befor he should eject one or the other.

What about this? It happened! A wrestler shows bite marks to the official. The opposing wrestler admits that he bit him but says it wasn't his fault the other kid put his hand in his mouth. What is the correct call?

This is one that I may be in the minority but I have seen it happen his year. There are 2 ways to show a bite mark and it NOT be a bite.

1, Bite yourself. I have actually seen this done once, not this year but I have seen it done.

2, A head crank or hard cross face across the wrestlers face and then keeping the arm pressure over the mouth of the opposing wrestler. I would challenge anyone to try this, hard pressure of the arm across the face. Then imagine that the wrestler is tired; trying to breathe with an open mouth and the arm will cause teeth marks to show on the arm. I have actually seen this happen several times. Once this year where the wrestler was almost disqualified after almost teching his opponent.

In that situation the opposing coach, thank goodness, came to the defense of the wrestler and told the official it was a hard cross face and not a bite. It caused his wrestler to loose but he was being honest.

There are normally ways to tell a legitimate bite from a fake bite or even just teeth impressions. I won't share those here, maybe someone else will but I have seen and know that teeth marks don't always indicate a true bite.

In the Garden City Case, the bite mark was at the juncture of the collarbone and the shoulder. Thry biting yourself there-- it would be very difficult or impossible. In the case of the ejection for the hard crossface that was not seen with the bleeding lip as evidence, is it not equally possible that that damage could be self inflicted?

Please realize that as I post this, I am not judging a referee, a coach, or a wrestler...I am just relating what the situation was. Lacer had a big early lead. A fall had been called at the end of the first period, which the referee subsequently waved off due to time after Emporia protested. Dikin had been making a comeback and in the third period, Lacer had a 10-7 lead when he took injury time. Lacer never said anyting, Dikin had not said anything. About a minute into injury time, Coach Buckbee called the referee over to say Dikin had a mark on his arm. The referee called flagarant misconduct and ended the match with Lacer leading and match time waning. The referee told us that he did not see a bite, but that he was ending it because Emporia's trainer felt the mark was a bite. Lacer was disqualified, from the rest of the tournament.

Because a trainer thought it was a bite?! I would have got a second opinion. If you are a ref you shouldn't be swayed into a decision like that by coaches, fans, or athletic trainers. You should consult another referee possibly, but the other stuff is ridiculous.

Lacer is a very congenial young man and I have seen him smile, joke with, and shake his opponents hand after a match was concluded which Lacer lost.

Very hard for me to believe this young man would intentionally bite anyone.

He didnt only bite him once, he bit him twice, in the emporia paper today they show him biting down on his arm, it was on purpose pictures cant lie, and dikin did say something when it happened the ref looked down and let the match go on, then when lacer took his injury timeout they called the ref over there and he looked at it

I was going to see if the Emporia paper's site had the pic but you have to subscribe to the paper to access the site.

He ate it raw martial, he didn't have time to pick up a bottle of sauce on his way to the tourny

geez, i dont think we want a mike tyson in high school wrestling

In eighth grade, i was beaten out of districts. As I walked off of the mat, I looked down at my wrist to find bloody bite marks. I went back to the ref, he pointed me to the head ref. the head ref said he can't dq the other guy because I walked off of the mat..even if it was for a couple of seconds.

If you had to look down to your wrist while walking off the mat to know you were bitten, it must have been a chigger bite.

Most don't know this but have probably wondered when they have seen me. I was a boxer and was pretty good, but Mike Tyson wasn't the first to bite someones ear. Take a look at my right ear the next time you see me and you will see what it looks like when someone takes a bite out of Mike.

Biting is just crazy at this level. How low of a person must you be to bit someone. I am not saying anyone bit anyone else just saying that if you have to bit I would make it hurt you more then it did me. That is just not showing repsect to your opponent or the sport.

I have no problem with a video tape being used to catch wrestlers playing unfair. I know it is not allowed but I think that you need to be able to turn it in so others can view it. The official can't catch everything and dirty play needs to be cut out of High School wrestling.