I agree that a grand state would clear all of this B.S. up. Until that happens just go up to hays one time to see the talent. Or go to the east west classic and watch that. Why didn't anyone respond about Hoxie? No one stands a chance against them. And stop bull shiting about the 6th ranked guy beating the 4th ranked guy. That is all crap. Stop trying to make make a case for 5A because they need to be in a girls league. Later

Wow, the guy that said Garden City won the Basehor tourney like it was a JV Tourney was full of it. Garden has a well balanced team with a lot of good kids that place and not many really outstanding wrestlers. They won only one weight in the tourney so it was hardly a JV Tourney to them and I doubt they would say that. It comes and goes last year they were fifth. All this crap about which side of the state is better is just that. Kids are kids. They wrestle the Metro match every year and Kansas has the edge in most individual matches won against the best Missouri has to offer. Everybody with any sense knows that Western Kansas has a legacy of fine wrestlers and the guy that said being a Kansas state champ means nothing nationally eveidently didn't look at the National NCAA Duals pages too carefully. There were three undefeated kids in those duals who were former Kansas State Champions. There are good kids wherever there are kids willing to put in the time and wrestle in the summer, lift weights, and pay the price. The idea that one side or the other or one state or the other has superior kids is so much crap.

i'm thinkin the reason some of the western kansas teams dont travel outlandish distances to wrestle in god knows where is because they know that some of the best compatition is less than half a tank of gas away and yes i agree i would take hoxie over anybody... in a tournament but i think in a duel i might c Norton ks edging them with wins at 7 weights 103,112,125,145,152,160,275 were all of those norton kids have already beat their hoxie counterparts

That would be a dual worth watching this year. But I guess when Hoxie and Norton meet at the Hoxie Invite, Norton Invite, Phillipsburg Invite, Regionals (in most years) and state, it probably does not make much sense to wrestle in a dual too.

It is true that Norton has picked up victories at those weights this year. Of course the season records at 103, 112 and 125 are 1-1. And the 160 match between Sprigg and Campbell was an 11-10 decision.

I would have to favor Hoxie in the dual even IF Norton were to win those weights, because I assume most of those weights would be close decisions. But I think Baker, Gilliland, Schippers, Schippers, ....... could all score the bonus points that would put Hoxie in front.

I'd love to see them square off in dual this year.

Yes my dear friends, I too would like to see Norotn and Hoxie wrestle in a dual. Most of the matches would be close and fun to watch.

u know what guys westeren kansas has better teams due to middle school wrestling so that there freshman come in and know a litle how to work and what it's like to be part of a team so yes there are better from that stand point but as far as good wrestlers eastern kansas domminates as far as champions every year look at the statsics i believe alot of that has to do with technique where as western kansas they are mostly just tough kids that really don't know that much technique but there just tough as far as placings after first cause east kansas dominates

u know what guys westeren kansas has better teams due to middle school wrestling so that there freshman come in and know a litle how to work and what it's like to be part of a team so yes there are better from that stand point but as far as good wrestlers eastern kansas domminates as far as champions every year look at the statsics i believe alot of that has to do with technique where as western kansas they are mostly just tough kids that really don't know that much technique but there just tough as far as placings after first cause east kansas dominates

Garden City has a great team but they only had one champion. I don't think that is domination. They have a lot of real good kids, not great ones. Yes, they won big but it is the first time in three years they have been in the top 5. They had more depth but the kids certainly were not dominant by any means.

Maybe that is true in 5 & 6A, but in 4 & 321A, Western Kansas pretty much dominates everything.

Not having a lot of finalists but having many that work their way through the back door to earn points on the consolation side would seem to be the definition of a good team.

Manhattan did the same thing in Newton - not a lot of finalists but the team was in for 3rd - 8th in about every other weight.

I'd bet the same type of approach will be what it takes to win the Beloit Tournament. Just too many teams capable of scoring 4 or 5 finalists. And too many more teams that will be able to equalize any one team's success out the front side with one or two great wrestlers of their own. I feel the team champ at Beloit will be the one who scores the most points on the consolation side to compliment their finalists.

yea right Bigpads 2, That's why ACCHS has won the State title two out of the last three years!!!! DOMINATING, WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes ACCHS has one two out of the last three, but after the season, I do believe that Hoxie will be able to make that claim, while ACCHS will have to settle for two out of the last four. Historically, though, Western Kansas has dominated 321A.

kneepads 2, I agree Hoxie is a great team no doubt, and should win it, easy for you to jump on the ol Hoxie ban wagon when you start to look stupid, isn't it? And Historically speaking from looking through this site, YOU ARE NOT A VERY SMART PERSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually I scored a 27 on the ACT. This sounds pretty good, except for the fact that when I scored the 27, I WAS IN SEVENTH GRADE!! So, please do not insult my intelligence in hopes of making the bleak, pathetic existence that is your life a little brighter. Go buy yourself a big, cuddly teddy bear. That would be a more worthy source of happiness to you (I would hope) than slamming my intelligence on the internet, using technology as a wall to protect you from the physical beating you would receive if you encountered me in public after making such derogatory remarks. So please be nice.
DOLT!!!

On another more pleasant note, Paola has moved up the rankings and now is ranked 6th in 5A. They are finally getting the respect they deserve. I am proud of all you Paola grapplers and will continue to watch intently as you continue to climb the rankings, climaxing in a state title, hopefully.

Oh, now you are gonna beat me up??????? Calm down homeboy, didn't mean to hurt your feelings. This site is for wrestling ok?? Don't make yourself look any more stupid. I'm gonna write this off as young kid, talking smack!!

swade 41 you are the one with an apparent lack of wisdom historically western kansas does dominate 4, and 321A just take a quick peak at the medal winners from each regional under the "minneapolis not ranked?" topic and c who has more medal winners the east regionals or the west and then if you are writing off #2 as a disgrunteled kid then why are you unable to rise above that level of name calling and personal insults "homedog"

and if this site is truely "for wrestling" shuldent the wrestlers them selves aka these "young kids" be allowed to voice their oppinions without having to wory atacks on their intelligence. so back off "homeboy"

#4, Noone ever said he could not voice his opinion, however when I voiced mine, he used profanity on here and was very rude for no reason, he was the ONE that attcked first, that's why I made him looked stupid, now get back to wrestling!!!!!!!!

oic what we have here it is a case of a grumpy old old man using a 3 year-olds excuse of "he started it" GET BACK TO YOUR JOB!!!!!!!