I don't know what everyone thought about the referee's in the tournament, but i have heard alot of bad things so i was just seeing what everyone else thought.

what class are you talking about...because in 4,5,6 a. There were some good refs...and some bad refs. You just had to hope you got a good one.

Well the bad refs i heard about were in 4a but i'm sure there were some bad ones in the other classes too.

I think the refs in the 171 321a match made horrible decissions, the thing is in my opinion those two are some of the best ever. Everyone makes mistakes, but that match needs to be looked at by all refs.

The refs at state are picked by the votes of the coaches. If you are unhappy with the ones there talk to the coaches.

i would like to know what you think needs to be looked at in the dennis/augustine match?

Dennis scored 4pts
Augustine scored 4pts
the ref scored 2pts in favor of Dennis

I have now watched the match twice. Once at GMC and yesterday on KOOD. The stalling "RULES" are explicit. It is stalling by either wrestler when he repeatedly grasps or interlocks around one leg of his opponent to prevent him from scoring. It is stalling when the contestent in the advantage position does not wrestle aggressively in an attempt to secure a fall by working off the legs and out to the side. Augustine dropped to the leg numerous times during the course of the match to "stall" Dennis' escape attempt. Two of those instances were in excess of 5 seconds (stalling). In the third period, the ref waited in excess of 20 seconds to call stalling while Augustine was content to sit on the legs and ride without an aggressive attempt to secure a fall (stalling). In fairness to the contestents at 171, this match was called by the book.