Thanks LS...good luck against Hugoton this week.

I personally think the two top teams in 4A football are Holton and Hayden. According to several Hayden players, they are better this year than they were last year when they won state. They play nothing but 5A and 6A schools until district and they are still undefeated this year. Don't know about their wrestling but in football, they dominate. Abilene comes to mind when people talk about great wrestling programs and good football teams. They were 5-1 until they met Chapman and now they are 5-2. Chapman is 6-1. Most of our wrestlers are young and with Abilene and Clay Center in our league, we have an uphill battle but do plan on giving it all we got.

LS, sorry for being so blunt, but UHS does have the better football team this year..Having said that, tradition is on your side, with all the championships in both football and wrestling, and sounds like you guys might compete for a state championship in wrestling, something Ulysses won't be able to do this year although they will be better than predicted. Last year was a fluke, with Coach Prieto getting injured and being out for over a month. Good luck this weekend.

Thanks for the link, Tuff Enuff!!!!

4a football and nobody competing with them? I think the 2nd ranked team in the state would give them fits: Topeka Hayden.

Like I said, I don't see very many 4a teams competing with them, but there are some that will.

Sharp,
What other big guys? I will give you the one on the sideline hurt. Ulysses had more than double the penalties and yards in penalties as SC. If you only are playing the teams for next year and gettting ready for next year (3A) you shouldn't loose. Most "GREAT TEAMS" play tougher teams. That is why they have BCS, it all plays into it when it comes to district play. I am betting on Ulysses Shelstin.

lansing is good

i think Andale can compete with anyone this year

Paola and Baldwin both have good wrestling teams and there football teams only have 1 loss each

Based on the topic title which is great fb with best wrestling, Hayden is out. And, based on the Eagle fb rankings, last year's state wrestling finishes and this year's predictions, the teams in my opinion that best fit the topic title are, Hutch, NW, BC, Manhattan, Seaman and Andale.

im going to have to go with Smith Center they rock at football and there pretty strong in wrestling too!

st thomas aquainis... they have a good football, wrestling, baseball, and volleyball
bishop carroll has the same.
northwest has a great football team, i wouldnt consider their wrestling team to be one of the top.
andale is very good
this question is hard to answer. in football generally the higher classes (i.e. 6a, 5a) seemly are tougher, and the lower classes are weaker (in most cases). but in wrestling it is somewhat reversed ***team wise- the smaller classes tend to be tougher wrestler wise, but the teams are weaker, and the larger classes have more wrestlers on their team which leds to a chance of having better wrestling teams.

good post notimer, but....
Northwest was 6th in 6A last year and should be higher this year. They could have 3-4 champs, at least finalist.
Also, I would not say that smaller class wrestlers are tougher. Last year, the large team won the all-star classic which is all individuals from different teams. Plus, the bulk of Kansas's high school all-americans and D1 all-americans the last ten years have been from large schools.

a little off topic but if you get metro sports, tonight the showdown in "o" town will be on. Olathe east 8-0 and Olathe south 8-0 will be playing. should be a great game

BC Football has 5 wrestlers:
Brenen Cody 215
Roman Cabrales
Ben Meyer
Tyler Rosenhamer
Mitch Arnold

They play Great Bend and I am sure GB has a lot of wrestlers.