nuff said

Hey Parker Co., Jordan Bedore might be interested in wrestling in one of the open spots. Could you please give more info. Is this freestyle or folkstyle?

littlebuster, no doubt they would beat Ponderosa. Ponderosa isn't an all star team, but every guy in the lineup is state placer quality which makes them hard to beat. If your talking Ponderosa vs. a state's all star team, there's no question who would win, especially vs. a good wrestling state like Kansas. But Ponderosa would probably win several matches vs. anyone.

Dbedore, click the link at the top of the page to learn a little more. It is a freestyle dual- format tournament. Unfortunately I haven't attended the tournament before, but I would imagine that every team would wrestle every other team so everyone would probably get around 7 matches (hwt. maybe 4-5). I'll try to find out more regarding that.

The teams that will be attending are some of the best in Colorado, so everybody is bound to run into someone tough regardless. I was recently informed by Tim Ottmann (Ponderosa's head coach) that 215 and Hwt. would be open for Ponderosa due to scheduling conflicts, so I'm just keeping my eye out for anyone who could fill those spots.

Hey little buster if all these guys are all that why didn't they win the high school nationals?? I realize that some weren't seniors, but how about the ones that were?? Kansas isn't the hotbed for high school wrestling as you may think. I think Kansas has had 2 high school all-americans the last 2 years that isn't alot. Kansas is in the middle of the pack in high school wrestling.

I believe it was three years ago when Kansas placed in the top 5. The past two years, Kansas has had 3 all-Americans.

While we aren't the greatest wrestling state out there (and no one claimed that we were), you must realize that states like Kansas have 2 million people, whereas Ohio, Pennsylvania, California, etc. have at least four times that. (Heck, even Iowa has 6 million people.) I think pound for pound, Kansas is one of the toughest states in the country.

Now get that anti-Sunflower talk out of this forum.

Prant is exactly correct here. While there are states that probably have more wrestlers, if the numbers were the same in a population perspective there would be little comparison. In the pound per pound or per capita ratings we have to be among the top 3 or 4 nationally.

19. 63.0 CO
19. 63.0 KS

If these are the scores from High School nationals what would be the point in wrestling Ponderosa and not just the whole state of Colorado. Why should a Kansas All-Star team even wrestle just one school instead of the whole state.

Kansas had about ten more guys than Colorado, and Ohio had a lot more than anyone else.
It's tough to tell anything from the team score at Senior Nationals due to the differential in numbers and the fact that they only score one wrestler per weight.

Two of Colorado's best guys were at the same weight (Hashimoto and Romero 135), and only Romero scored points because he placed 4th and Hashimoto was one match from placing (he went OT with the guy who took 5th in his final match). Hashimoto was the only guy who beat Romero this season. We also had 4 guys at 171, and obviously only one of them scored points.

Also, Colorado's best guy wasn't even at the tournament. Kyle Sand who was an undefeated 4xer had surgery right after state, so he couldn't go. He was a potential finalist, and that would have scored some big points.

I'm not saying Colorado is better, I'm just pointing out how those scores can be misleading. If everyone took all of their guys who were qualified, the tournament would be a heck of a lot better and a much more accurate guage.

A more accurate guage would be Fargo,or Jr.duals in Enid results can be found at the mat .com

Ive had just about enough of this Colorado talk. So how about that Kansas wrestling?