I would chose a healthy lattimer over any wrestler in 189 or 215 that you named on the list even over speer and dyer, because when he was healthy he wasn't tested by any wrestler except against philip walker who is another great wrestler who would have won state over josh caroll that year if they didn't move down to 5a.

the top 215 wrestlers on that list are

1.Lattimer
2.Speer
3.Walker

they were all 3 great and dominant wrestlers

Stiknmove> You are the one that seems to be talking all the nonsense b.s. Did I ever say anywhere in here that I was one of the best 189lbs ever. No, your the one that is turning everything that I say around in order to make me look like a cocky person. So it would be nice if you would quit talking crap on me. By the way, who did you even wrestle for in high school?

Crowley, if you noticed, the last post I had which made referrence to the "one of the best" comments was not directed at you. I was commenting on nhsgrad215's post. I actually gave you credit and did not want to take anything away from you, except for that weak weight comment, which it was, but you were the one that came out on top, so congrats. Your posts did come off arrogant and I'm not the only one that has noticed that. I'm not talking crap on you, I just don't think that you were as good as what you or others have made yourself out to be. I'm sorry if you disagree with that, but that's life.

hey nhsgrad215, thanks for the compliment. Did you go to Newton High School? What year did you graduate?

Stiknmove> Alright, my fault then. But this topic isn't the only one that you have said something about me in. But anyways since you know my name and I am not afraid to say anything, why don't you tell me who you are, instead of posting all the comments w/o letting me know who you are. And by the way, I think that you think pretty highly of yourself as well.

I don't think highly of myself, you must be mistaken. I have never once posted anything on here that makes reference to how good I am as a wrestler. I don't intend to either. I'm just a casual observer who doesn't mind speaking up about things I don't agree with. I don't mean to belittle you, you have just made some comments that I didn't agree with and I spoke up against them is all. Sorry for all of the grief that I may have caused you and I apologize for any hardship that you have suffered because of me.

Yeah I went to newton and graduated in 2001, never got to wrestle you though.

Earlier in this post JCrow said that 215 was down this year. Three All-Americans prove that Kansas had one of the hardest 215 pound weight divisions in the country. Congratulations to T.J., Blake, and Josh on their excellent performance in Ohio. Lets give credit where credit is deserved.

Noah Clouse with no question

Lattimer, if healthy, would of been the man to beat. If a young man with two broken hands can win state and fight through the pain, I would say that he is on top of anybody's list.

Chaney was better than everyone on this list. Anyone who saw the state finals his senior year or the East West match against Parker will never forget him, not to mention his second period fall against Bozarth of Missouri an undefeated three time state champion in the kansas-missouri match, Bozarth was at the time the second ranked 215 in the nation. I would put Chaney on the mat with anyone I have ever seen in this state at 215 and sit back and not have to coach a bit.