Ha. Here's a good one for you chumps.
Find me the state wrestling championship results in places that we're ahead of like Arkansas, Vermont, Maine, Mississippi? Please enlighten all of us. Being in the bottom half and including states that don't have much or no wrestling whatsoever is an absolute cop out. A total manipulation of the facts. KS is in the midwest and surrounded by wrestling states. This is wrestling country. Comparing it to DC, Delaware and the like is hogwash. Face it. We got to teach our kids to battle better on our feet and better from the bottom. Once again, my credentials...two ncaa AAs, one Big 8 title. Now let's hear your credentials.

Gutwrench1, some time im gonna get on here under a new name and say that i am a 4 time all american and had 3 big 8 tittles and say that i can fly and that i have xray vision but untill i see a name by you and know who you are i am going to assume you that you are a sad lonely old man who missed going to state by 1 point his senior year and has been mad ever since. and i think no one on here should respond to anything you have to say until you tell us who your are.

Ha! Good points Jason.

Dean Welsh, TEN TIMES OLYMPIC GOLD MEDALIST ;-)

I'm with Jason - the stench is gone!!

Ol ACDC Dog,

If KS comes within 10pts I quit your forum. I'm confident you'll have me for another year because these boys and their coaches have been outworked by their foes. That's all we're talkin' about, work. BTW, what are your credentials? I assure you mine are legit.

Fact Right Now: Still putting out some talent

Divison I

8 (4%) out of the 200 top ranked guys in Division I wrestling are from Kansas. That is not bad for a state that has less than 1% of the U.S. population. I think 10% of the NCAA finalist the last few years have Kansas on their High School Diploma. The coaches and the kids must be doing something right (sorry if I missed anyone)

Division II

Fact Right Now: Still putting out some talent
6 or (7.5%) of the 80 young men ranked in NCAA Division II have Kansas High School Diplomas (sorry if I missed anyone) not bad for a state that has less than 1% of the U.S. population
125 Pounds
1. Trevor Charboneau, Nebraska-Kearney - From Kansas
2. Rob McCabe, Adams State (Colo.)
3. Cody Garcia, Nebraska-Omaha - From Kansas
4. Ryon Mazzacco, Pittsburgh-Johnstown (Pa.)
5. Mike Compton, Ashland (Ohio)
6. Jamie Thomas, Shippensburg (Pa.)
7. Tyler Mumbulo, Upper Iowa
8. Nick Smith, Minnesota State-Mankato

“I know 125 is one weight worth a quick mention as it has 3 of 16 athletes in it from Kansas!
I think Kansas overall from a former prep standpoint did very well in qualifying wrestlers.”

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Yours in wrestling,
The Swayz

133 Pounds
1. Brett Allgood, Nebraska-Kearney
2. Raymond Dunning, Adams State (Colo.)
3. Andy Uhl, Findlay (Ohio)
4. Shane Perkey, Indianapolis (Ind.)
5. Earl Jones, Central Oklahoma - From Kansas
6. Dan Hilario, Nebraska-Omaha
7. Virgil Lockett, San Francisco State (Calif.)
8. Ralph Acosta, Upper Iowa
141 Pounds
1. Thad Benton, Pittsburgh-Johnstown (Pa.)
2. Mitch Waite, Nebraska-Omaha
3. Kyle Evans, Central Oklahoma
4. Brian Pitts, Adams State (Colo.)
5. Jeff Rutledge, Nebraska-Kearney
6. Andre VanderVelde, Augustana (S.D.)
7. Zach Meissner, Ashland (Ohio)
8. Zach Stephens, Minnesota State-Mankato
149 Pounds
1. Camille DuPont, Western State (Colo.)
2. Ryan King, Augustana (S.D.)
3. R.J. Paterniti, Gannon (Pa.)
4. Tony Guerra, Findlay (Ohio)
5. Shea Timothy, Central Oklahoma
6. Shane Unger, Nebraska-Omaha
7. Mark Pfeifer, Chadron State (Neb.)
8. Mikel Delk, Fort Hays State (Kan.) -
157 Pounds
1. Patrick Allibone, Nebraska-Omaha
2. Zach Lee, Western State (Colo.)
3. Math Bitz, Minnesota State-Mankato
4. David Nordhues, Fort Hays State (Kan.)
5. Brad Becker, Wisconsin-Parkside
6. Austin Scarset, Augustana (S.D.)
7. Jason Leavitt, Central Oklahoma
8. Will Tedder, Mercyhurst (Pa.)
165 Pounds
1. Nate Baker, Minnesota State-Moorhead
2. Zach Schafer, Mercyhurst (Pa.)
3. Cort Petersen, Central Oklahoma
4. Cody Henriksen, Augustana (S.D.)
5. Ross Taplin, Nebraska-Omaha - From Kansas
6. Eric Lakia, Ashland (Ohio)
7. Andy Pickar, Minnesota State-Mankato
8. Brett Hunter, Chadron State (Neb.)
174 Pounds
1. J.D. Naig, Nebraska-Omaha
2. Travis Krinke, Minnesota State-Mankato
3. Tommy Clark, West Liberty State (W.Va.).
4. Jared Hess, Central Oklahoma
5. Dusty Wilking, Augustana (S.D.)
6. Aaron Meister, Fort Hays State (Kan.) - From Kansas
7. Eli Garshnick, Pittsburgh-Johnstown (Pa.)
8. Mike Jackson, Indianapolis (Ind.)
184 Pounds
1. Gregg Nurrenbern, Truman State (Mo.)
2. John Koons, Minnesota State-Mankato
3. Mark Murphy, Shippensburg (Pa.)
4. Nate Buys, Augustana (S.D.)
5. Mike Corcetti, Pittsburgh-Johnstown (Pa.)
6. Tanner Linsacum, Nebraska-Kearney
7. Matt Allen, Ashland (Ohio)
8. Jacob Tazzi, Gannon (Pa.)
197 Pounds
1. Tim Boldt, Augustana (S.D.)
2. Plamen Paskalev, Central Missouri State
3. Jeff Sylvester, Nebraska-Kearney
4. Corey Jacoby, Shippensburg (Pa.)
5. John Goral, Wisconsin-Parkside
6. Ryan Kirst, Ashland (Ohio)
7. Mike Fowler, Pittsburgh-Johnstown (Pa.)
8. Joel Wipperfurth, Southwest Minnesota
285 Pounds
1. Les Sigman, Nebraska-Omaha
2. Jacob Linninger, Shippensburg (Pa.)
3. Tervel Dlagnev, Nebraska-Kearney
4. Andrew Ubben, Fort Hays State (Kan.) - From Kansas
5. Chris Bietz, Augustana (S.D.)
6. Tim Kraemer, Minnesota State-Mankato
7. Chris Tuchscherer, Minnesota State-Moorhead
8. Josh Uhl, Ashland (Ohio)
2/14/2006
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Final NJCAA Team/Individual Rankings - / 2/14/06
Fact Right Now: Still putting out some talent
6 or (7.5%) of the top 80 young men ranked in National Junior College Rankings have Kansas High School Diplomas (sorry if I missed anyone) not bad for a state that has less than 1% of the U.S. population

Division 1
1. Iowa Central
2. North Idaho
3. Labette, KS
4. Western Wyoming
5. North West Wyoming
6. Colby, KS
7. SW Oregon
8. Clackamas, OR
9. Ellsworth, IA
10. Neosho, KS

Individuals
125
1. Eric Hoffman - Iowa Central
2. Tim Elliot – Labette _ From Kansas
3. Jeff Hedges - North Idaho
4. Dennis Kakrah – Waubonsee
5. Derek Sharp - Gloucester
6. Mike Wilding – Western Wyoming
7. Andy McArthur – Harper
8. Josh Williams – SW Oregon
133
1. Tony Valdez - Iowa Central
2. Cody Bowers – Mercyhurst
3. Dontie Lacy – Triton
4. Maurico Benitez - Nassau
5. Cody Nicholson – North Idaho
6. Levi Younkin – Colby _ From Kansas
7. David Beagley – Western Wyoming
8. Scott Kruk - Harper
141
1. Joe Soto - Iowa Central
2. Clint Collins - Gloucester
3. Mark Fisher – Western Wyoming
4. Henrich Barnes - North Idaho
5. Jeremy Powell – Triton
6. Ross Montour – NW Wyoming
7. Daniel Prater – Colby – From Kansas
8. Toby Reese – Morrisville
149
1. Alex Binder – Gloucester
2. Paul Mayfield – Neosho
3. Henry Kofa – Lassen
4. Matt Gilland – Colby – From Kansas
5. Seth Anderson – Ellsworth
6. James Clark - Jamestown
7. Tony Martin – Lincoln
8. Seth Roy - Clackamas

157
1. Matt Schippers – Colby – From Kansas
2. Paul Collum - Iowa Central
3. Jason Layton - Nassau
4. Dallas Hesseltine - Harper
5. Luke Elmore – Labette
6. Tyson Hurst – North Idaho
7. Chris Marks – Alfred state
8. Eric Coxbill – NW Wyoming
165
1. Adam O’Neil – Harper
2. Cody Early – Western Wyoming
3. Josh Erickson – North Idaho
4. Jimmy Harris – Gloucester
5. Aaron Young – Itasca
6. Zach Bogardus - Morrisville
7. Ray Richardson - Lassen
8. Mike Vingo- Nassau
174
1. Kasey Meiners – Rochester
2. Tommy McCarthy - Labette
3. Mark Pieffer – Gloucester
4. Anthony Leon - Pima
5. Antoine Love - Iowa Central
6. Jesse Linczmaier – Harper
7. Jim Enobe - Neosho
8. Julius Rios – NW Wyoming
184
1. Alex Saunders - Labette
2. Mike Wilcox - Nassau
3. David Gleissner – Harper
4. Kyle Olson - Ellsworth
5. Dallas Mitchell - MN West
6. Brad Padgett - Highline
7. Josh Edmondson - North Idaho
8. Shawn Vincent – NW Wyoming
197
1. Jon Jones - Iowa Central
2. Joe Scioli – Nassau
3. Ethan Vogt – Ridgewater
4. Josh Barh – Neosho –From Kansas
5. Kyle Sand – North Idaho
6. Sean Evans – Harper
7. Jamie Lucott – Alfred state
8. Mike Dean - Muskegon
285
1. Jake Kallstead – North Idaho
2. Spencer Bowles - NW Wyoming
3. Marino Eatman – Waubonsee
4. David Brenner – Harper
5. Chuck Watkins – Williamson Trade
6. Jacob Combs - Iowa Central
7. Colin Thompson - Niagara
8. Dan Pownall – Clackamas

Good Job Wrestlers and Coaches

Smokey Cabin you forget to add, Smokey Cabin 3 time world greco champ, which we should all add unill gutwrench tells us who he is, and at this point unless his name was Gable, Gardner, Brands or smith i could care less, and since hes from kansas he aparently isnt, so lets just foget him.

You guys are from STA and have a mad on so let me talk for a minute about an STA's stat in the Metro Classic. STA hasn't won a single Metro Classic match or scored a point for Team Kansas in that dual. You coachin cats are tough as heck in Johnson County but you're are 0-4 just across the state line. After Tuesday's beatdown, STA is gonna be 0-5.
You're outcoached and outworked, heck maybe too much Greco?

STA's record at Metro Classic
Nolan Cisper lost 3-7
Ibarra was pinned
Munyan lost 0-13
cisper lost 4-8
Hurla?

PS..If I am gable, brands, douglas or smith you'd still call me a liar.

If you were Gable, Brands, Douglas or Smith you wouldn't hide behind a screen name and you'd be constructive with words AND actions and not just inflammatory on a talk forum.

Gutwrench-

I will assume for a moment that you are an adult. And if my assumption is correct (which sometimes there is doubt) Please realize you are making comments about young men and not your own peers. There is a point when your comments become more insulting and ridiculous than they are inspirational (which I can only assume is your motivation for some of the things you say) and intelligent.

These young men, regardless of their school and overall achievement in a select dual, do not deserve to be berated by someone who hides their identity. To be effective at offering any critical opinions you must first be a reliable source of information. You have no merit due to the fact that you trash-talk incognito. The way you behave on this forum is not helping Kansas kids learn to become better adults, and in no way is a positive influence on their wrestling careers.

In assuming that you are adult I am somewhat ashamed of what you are bringing to our wrestling community, no matter what your personal opinion may be on the quality we produce in our state (which in my personal opinion is very good despite KSHSAA not allowing our experienced coaches to coach our athletes outside of the season except in select events).

Next time before you make a post on this forum, please ask yourself if you are behaving as an adult should, and if you are actually contributing anything positive to the community.

Coach DeYoe, thanks for that highminded and principled "adult" lecturing. Next time you post, please ask yourself am I boring or what? Most of my posts are about adults---coaches and refs. With all the praise that goes around this forum, I should think a bit of criticism might be in order.

Criticism is a very solid form of motivation. I just feel the method that you have gone about it is/was all wrong. But then again that is just my critical opinion. At least I am backing it up with my name.

Gutwrench, even if you were one of those 4 at this time time lost enough respect for you i dont care, and coach DeYoe you are right on all your points, I cant wait till we find out gutwrench is a fat, bald, man, living in a trailor and spends his time on here or watching QVC, thats going to be fun for me. Untill next time, Jason Malay, 9 time state champion.

Team is an interesting concept. There is always room for improvement in coaching and as a wrestler. I think the STA boys had a few wins over these Missouri kids (see the table below)and I am sure the Missouri kids had a few wins over the STA guys and the other Kansas kids. That is they way it goes. I am proud to have had the opportunity to work with the many young men in Kansas the last 15 years. We had a great year with about 65 novice wrestlers and about 10 novice kids have moved to the open group with about 50 in that group. The High School guys also had an outstanding year and fell a little short of their goal - it wasn't from lack of training, drilling and/or coaching. They will be back next year and maybe lace their wrestling shoes a little tighter. As far as picking on the individual kids - well you know how I feel about that - Coach Deyoe said it best.

Coach McCarthy


MissouriWrestling.com High School Team Rankings

Class 2
(1/31/06)
1. Platte County
2. Kirksville
3. St. Gen.
4. Moberly
5. Monett
6. Odessa
7. Marshall
8. Harrisonville
9. Oak Grove
10. Seneca


Shawnee Mission South Invitational
January 8,2005

Team Scores
1. Saint Thomas Aquinas 283.5
2. Platte Co. MO 199
3. Topeka Seaman 176
4. Lawrence 131

Right on, KCWrestlersMom! Also, throwing your credentials in one's face doesn't make your point, either. Interestingly, O.J. Simpson and Michael Jackson have credentials, but very little credibility.

hmott
Bronze Member
OH, USA
Total Posts: 955
Posted: 03/07/2006 at 10:19:23 am

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here is the data using 2004 census data for population, and intermat numbers for state qualifiers. They are in order of highest % qualifiers per state population.

State, Qualifiers, population, % qualifers / population

mt 5 926865 0.000539 Rank 1st
pa 60 12406292 0.000484
id 6 1393262 0.000431
wy 2 506529 0.000395
ia 11 2954451 0.000372
ks 9 2735502 0.000329 - Ranks 6th not to bad
nj 26 8698879 0.000299
oh 30 11459011 0.000262
ok 9 3523553 0.000255
or 7 3594586 0.000195
nv 4 2334771 0.000171
mi 17 10112620 0.000168
ut 4 2389039 0.000167
nh 2 1299500 0.000154
wi 8 5509026 0.000145
co 6 4601403 0.000130
sc 1 770883 0.000130
sd 1 770883 0.000130
in 8 6237569 0.000128
tn 7 5900962 0.000119
il 14 12713634 0.000110
md 6 5558058 0.000108
nm 2 1903289 0.000105
mn 5 5100958 0.000098
va 7 7459827 0.000094
ny 17 19227088 0.000088
mo 5 5754618 0.000087
wa 5 6203788 0.000081
ca 27 35893799 0.000075
nc 6 8541221 0.000070
wv 1 1815354 0.000055
fl 8 17397161 0.000046
az 2 5743834 0.000035
ms 1 6416505 0.000016
ga 1 8829383 0.000011
tx 1 22490022 0.000004


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