i know this isnt really the derby kids arent this discussion, but they are the easiest example, so i will use them. do you think those kids thought, "hey, lets have this party and drink, and if we get caught its not big deal cuz we'll only be suspended a week." or do you think they thought, "we won't get caught". kids who drink dont believe they will get caught. every high school signs an agreement of whatever their policy is. everyone is going to sign it, those who have made the personal decision not to drink would still not drink without the policy. for what its worth i grew up in the KC area(Olathe) and new many kids from the shawnee mission area. i can't say i saw much of a difference in drinking there then olathe, blue valley, kck, or anywhere else for that matter. no i don't have the experience there as LancerM, but i would assert those he knew that didn't drink still would not have drank had the policy said, two week suspension for example.