With that kind of post, you will always bring out the Carroll haters. See? Too bad for the 160lber, a sad moment for a good kid, a joyous occasion for the rest of the masses. Trust me, if it were to happen to a certain Derby kid, there would be a 3 page post in here with wailing and gnashing of teeth. It doesn't matter to them if it was a takedown or not in regulation, the bottom line is he lost. Pop the champagne corks haters.