"Vince I can tell it's getting close to that time for your wife to give you the drink she calls "sleepy juice" and you take a long off-season nap."
You might remember Vince that the previous year I had posted something simular to what you quoted. Both posts were in jest and the previous year it was taken as the humor in which it was intended. For some reason, you took the above quote as some mean shot at you. I like you Vince, I truely do! I get aggravated with you at times because you will argue a point into the ground and when presented with facts, like those concerning the KWCA proposal, you simply ignore them. The newbies to this board may not know the history of some of these subjects but I expect more from you. You can continue to ignore my posts if you want but I appreciate your contributions to this board. Every message board needs a resident Trekki or Cpl. Agarn.
P.S. Thanks for not responding to me directly.
Okay, I will call a truce with you on my part and I will start to reply to you again. I will take you at your word that you were replying in jest last year.
As far as the KWCA post goes, whenever this topic comes up I refer to it to point out to some posters that this is not just an idea that is being supported by people who are worried that their 8th grader is not going to be competitive against the freshmen that year. My purpose is to show them that other active wrestling community people (KWCA high school coaches) have had the idea that maybe high schoolers should not be wrestling in the kids state tournament series and should be doing something else instead. After reading your reply to me yesterday I was trying to remember exactly what the reasons that were stated in previous years as to why that KWCA proposal could not work. I can't say I remember exactly. Did it have something to do with the length of the middle school wrestling season? It seems like I remember that maybe you or someone else might said if the Kids state tournament series was to end before high school state that it would conflict with the end of the middle school seasons in some parts of Kansas. Is that right or was it something else?
As far as the statement I made that the majority of states do not have the high schoolers wrestle with the elementary and middle school kids in their Kids post season folkstyle state tournaments. I believe that I tried to contact someone with the national USAW organization to see if they had that information. I believe what they responded to me is that they have not compiled that exact information but that I could check each individual state's tournament requirements but that I would probably end up finding that very few states have their high schoolers come back after the season to wrestle in their Kids state folkstyle tournament series. I am trying to locate that communication because I normally keep that type of communication but so far I have been unable to locate it. So I guess you are right to challenge me on that one, but honestly don't you really think it is probably true that the majority of states do not include their high school kids in the their Kids state folkstyle season?
My last comment on your reply post to me from yesterday will be about me pointing out about how the non wrestling community that I have contact with all talk about the NCAA basketball tournament but not the wrestling tournament. You said that this forum should be a sanctuary from that and asked why are they all talking about it. My purpose in making the comment was just to show that wrestling needs to be open to change and outside the box thinking like Will's proposals. I think we have to talk about how we are so far behind basketball and football in popularity with the general sports public. I don't think we can ignore it. I think we have to face it, talk about it, and think of ways to change the situation so that in the long run we can start to see wrestling programs in college start to grow again.
Have a good day today and I will do my best going forward to keep good communication between the two of us. If you ever want to e-mail me personally, feel you can do so comfortably to:
vlnowak@everestkc.net
