"My only problem with Chertow is that he shows the cement mixer and the SNAKE (head and arm) hack moves that only work on 6U and poor wrestlers. It has taken several months to work these moves out of a couple of wrestlers that learned them at a Chertow camp. He may teach other good techniques but these two moves are terrible. Kids find immediate success with them and once everyone knows what you are going to do, your screwed. Teach the basics and not these hack moves."

-I am sure everyone knows how I feel. It is okay if you consider the "snack" a hack move if you want. Each wrestler should do moves that they feel good with. I felt really good with the snake. I pinned a lot of wrestlers with the move. Would you rather call a gramby a hack move? No, because kids have success with all different types of moves. By the way, I still use the snake in college!