I never said the headlock or the granby were hack moves, although I've seen the headlock ruin alot of young wrestlers. I guess my point is that these moves do not need to be shown until the basics are mastered. Learn all the moves you want, pick your flavor of the month, but if you don't have the basics down before learning these it stunts your wrestling growth. This is the youth forum, 6U, 8U, and 10U should not be learning these moves in my opinion. And not to throw gas on the fire, but I would just work on making it to the finals instead of worrying about what move I'm going to use in the finals.