Mike,
I thought long and hard if I should reply to this subject again but in the end decided to give it one last try. Not because I believe I'm going to convince you and I know you aren't going to convince me but rather I can't leave people to believe that what you say I said in any way represents my thoughts or opinions.
I have a real problem when people take my posts out of context on bulletin boards but you take that to new levels by the following:
"just don’t shake your finger in my face or threaten me". When did I do either of these? I find it odd that I had the same debate with wrestlemom and while we may not agree she didn't attempt to twist my meanings or seem threatened by my opinions. Why is it you and martialarts refuse to do the same?
"Debate is a vital part of life, when that retorts to he said she said, or what seems to be personal attacks then that is off base. Again, Sportsfan02 if I am wrong here let me know.". Again where are the personal attacks? You seem to enjoy debate as long as the other person agrees with you and YES you are wrong!
As to your conversations with the Seay, Monday, Sanderson, and Hodge I leave you with this, "It was interesting that when possible all thought that when possible that kids should wrestle both for club and school". We are fortunate here in Kansas that our kids do have the opportunity to do both. Just because your school doesn't and you refuse to address this on a local level is not my concern. By the way I DO know who Danny Hodge is so I guess I'm not a newcomer to this sport. But it is nice to know that I am in such good company regarding my thoughts!
"I challenge you to tell me one place where I have referred to Kansas wrestling or anything about Kansas as backwards". All one has to do is scroll back up to the top of this subject and read your posts about how this state is behind others because we don't allow students to compete in outside competitions once the student begins practice. Holding us up in comparison to Oklahoma or any other state is really not fair. All states are unique so a blanket policy simply doesn't work for all. I guess I would feel better about your positive comments regarding Kansas wrestling if they weren't normally countered by a previous criticism.
As to your offer to contact you via email or offline sorry but I decline. I assure you many people who I know and respect on this board have my email addy and we interact both via email and in person at various wrestling events. I might add we sometimes disagree on a wide range of subjects but we don't feel the need to "clear up" any areas of disagreement. Mike I have no doubt you are a nice guy or at least I have no evidence otherwise and have never said anything to the contrary. As to my not buying your "BS" about Oklahoma I simply don't see that as an insult. Alot of us nice guys "BS" about a wide variety of subjects. Those that know me will tell you I have been known to do so myself. I must however refuse the offer for dinner. After consulting with friends who said I "might be easy but not cheap", I'm holding out for a nice bottle of wine and theatre tix.