I Don't know and have never met either of the guys that appear to be a a little "out-of-sorts" with each other on some things. I've read many of their "posts" and always found their comments and/or remarks to be informative, accurate and insightful. Obviously, these are a couple of guys that have almost encyclopedic knowledge of a sport we all like. Their continued commentary and opinions are valued. I know that each has helped me better understand alot of wrestling related issues. I value their contributions. I personally hope that they cut each other a little slack and press forward in sharing their extensive knowledge and insights into high school wrestling.