The ruling has been documented!! Coach Seibel was correct. As stated earlier, a prominent official, an AD, and several coaches did not interpret the rule properly. I still don't feel that the KSHSAA has a right to tell parents what they can and can't film or take pictures of in a public forum. I agree with Jim, if it is rule then it shouldn't be broken but if it isn't going to be enforced then lets do away with it. Honestly there is no way short of banning cameras to enforce it. It should be allowed and it can become a part of the learning and preparation process. Those who want to get better by studying will and if those who don't want to put in the extra time it is their choice.
You will have to start at the bottom of the string and work your way up.
This is, as I noted, a policy that applies in all KSHSAA sports. I agree that the policy enforcement has challenges but I know it has been enforced by the schools! Not unlike traffic laws, not everyone who speeds gets caught but when they are, they are penalized. Policy such as this are determined by the KSHSAA Executive Board. Any KSHSAA member school (administrator, Board of Education) may propose changes to any KSHSAA policy. Or any member of the KSHSAA Board of Directors or Executive Board may propose changes. The KSHSAA Executive Board would have to adopt any changes to this policy.
Rick Bowden
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From: WCokeley
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 5:24 PM
To: rbowden@kshsaa.org
Subject: Re: Video Taping Clarification
This rule must be changed as it is absolutely unenforcable and will create a ridiculous amount of chaos and accusation. It is stupid! I will put this on my llist to the KWCA. What is the penalty? I know of at least 100 violators right now. This is so Orwellian.
I don't see how the KSHSAA can make a policy that applys when there is no basis for realistic enforcement. Absurd.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Bowden <rbowden@kshsaa.org>
To: William Cokeley
Sent: Mon Jan 28 13:54:13 2008
Subject: RE: Video Taping Clarification
I never claimed to be an expert on federal law – all I was implying/saying is that there are federal laws that are on an on-going basis being decided daily in the courts relevant to how those laws apply to minors. What might be permitted (legal) today may not be tomorrow.
Bottom line – the statement in the KSHSAA wrestling manual can not be any clearer – no where does it state that it applies only to coaches, schools, etc. It states “Video taping and camera filming are considered one and the same and can only occur when there is competition between your wrestler and an opponent.” I believe I did state in my previous response – the rule does not apply only to KSHSAA member schools or coaches.
Parents taping their own children’s matches – that’s not a problem. It’s someone (not a parent, grandparent, school coach, school manager) taping a match of a student from another school to review later. That’s the KSHSAA policy for all activities.
Rick Bowden
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From: WCokeley
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 3:15 PM
To: rbowden@kshsaa.org
Subject: Re: Video Taping Clarification
Rick,
Come on. You are not the authority on the privacy act only KSHSAA policies.
Does KSHSAA prohibit the video taping of other's matches or not? I will worry about the FBI and CIA later. The AD's, officials, and coaches are divided. The rule says "for the purpose of review during competition.". This would mean that you could video but not for that purpose. How would you ever enforce it when nearly every cell phone can record a period of wrestling now. It is unbelievable that my tax dollars go towards paying a group that can't deliver a straight answer. Are you going to expect schools to run around and check every electronic device and id to make sure it is ok to video? That is crazy and it would be equally crazy to ban cameras. This is still America no matter how much freedom your group tries to tear away from us.
Will
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Bowden <rbowden@kshsaa.org>
To: William Cokeley
Sent: Mon Jan 28 12:45:22 2008
Subject: RE: Video Taping Clarification
The rule does not apply only to KSHSAA member schools or member school coaches. We have had situations in the past in which schools have had to secure video’s of students taken by persons other than parents – there’s issues other than KSHSAA rules that apply in these situations – federal law re; privacy and minors. Johnny’s dad taking video’s of Joe and Jimmy (using your example) may very well be in trouble with violations of federal law.
Rick Bowden
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From: WCokeleySent: Monday, January 28, 2008 12:00 PM
To: rbowden@kshsaa.org
Subject: Video Taping Clarification
Rick,
Can parents video wrestling matches of kids other than their own for use of review after the event has been completed?
For example: Can Johnny’s dad video Joe vs Jimmy on Saturday and then review the tape with Johnny the following Monday in preparation for the State tournament?
I read the rule in the 2007-08 Manual on page 13 but I interpret that rule as applying only to coaches, wrestlers, and school employees. Correct?
Will Cokeley
