not talking about humiliation, talking about bad sportmanship. I get the argument about repeated takedowns, i understand where you people are coming from, i understand they need to work, i get it. But when you are looking at the ref and the scoreboard and just holding his shoulders off the mat, YOU ARE A PUNK!!, and there is no way around it. It it like staring the pitcher down after hitting a home run or standing over a guy after you just laid him out on the football field. This move is the wrestling equivilant of showboating. If you think it is ok then you are the punk, you are the bully, and you are the guy everyone loves to root against. You are the Barry Bonds of wrestling, Congrats.