That is a good move on their part. They will definitely have the home field advantage with the winds out there.

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"I know you're out there. I can feel you now. I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone, and then I'm going to show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a world without (basketball)." - The Matrix

Soccer supports Title 9, men and women can be added at the same time.

I think soccer is added under Performing Arts or something, not Athletics.

A fellow HS Football coach thought that Soccer was a Communist plot to destroy American football!!

I would love to see another opportunity for Kansas athletes to stay in-state to compete in wrestling. But that opportunity would be meaningless if there were not sufficient money endowed to cover operating costs and 9.9 scholarships (in today's available investment return rates I would estimate this to be about $7 million in endowed funding).....because in my opinion, the program would be in peril of being cut at some point in the future if not funded without dollars outside the university budget. Plus - without being a fully funded program we would not have a level playing field with the other schools we'd be competing against and trying to qualify for the national tournament against.

A DI program would be nice. However, like others have said, I believe we'll be money ahead if we spend our time providing support and dollars to our 4 existing NJCAA and 2 NCAA DII teams to help them become/remain fully funded and competitive.

Another caveat to the Wayne Jackson hitchhiking story is that he was reprimanded by the university when he returned home because his story had been picked up by the national press and the administration at home felt he had caused them embarrassment. IMO they should have been embarrassed, but not because the story made the news.....but because they didn't support their program.

Soccer is a communist plot to destroy all we hold dear. Their goal is to overwhelm us with sheer boredom and then replace our goal posts with soccer goals as we snooze. I have known this for many years.

Anyway, we have the same chance of ever seeing wrestling at KU and KSU as soccer does at becoming the national sport....ZERRRROOOOOOO.

Who needs them, they turned their back on us many years ago and they did it with a smile on their face. By the way I hope Wayne didn't read that, because he won't know that caveat is a veggy. It is isn't it??

Little Old Davidson - Enrollment 1,700 and they have wrestling.
Davidson fields 10 mens sports and 9 womens sports. Not sure how that works with Title IX. I did not dig into the participation numbers. No football team. Maybe there is hope for D-I at Newman, Baker, Ottawa, etc. The Big 12 schools in Kansas and Wichita State Administration need a reality check - maybe give up a little of their pension plan, car allowance, travel budget, and give Kansas kids that are in minor sports an opportunity to stay in state and get an education. After my discussion with administration Ad's, Presidents, etc. They feel they are untouchable and they are above the taxpayer who allows them to be at these state instituations. By the way, their place of employment and the ground under the buildings they work in is own by us the taxpayer. We need to get these guys off their high horse and it is time to educate the administration and some of our own home grown kids. These big schools need pressure from the news media, The Kansas Board of Regents, Politicians, us - we the people of Kansas, if it takes a legislator to write legislation then we should do it. Finiacial plans have been discussed. I threw out a $5 to $10 million dollar number - I was told it would take more like $50 million for a 10 year plan. Of course that would include 2 more womens sports and facility improvements. These guys need to sharpen their pencils more often and quit putting their hand out for more, more, more fatter budgets.



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Kansas University vs Davidson Revenues and Expense Data

Source: US Department of Education
http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/InstList.asp

At the college level how can it cost $5 million more to field a D-I basketball team? Or how can one team spend more than $85,000
per player than another team and call that an even playing field. I understand it at the professional level New York Yankees vs the Kansas City Royals. Like I said the administration needs to sharpen their pencils and give Kansas home grown kids in minor sports the same opportunities for an education as they do for kids from out of state.

KU Data Expense for Men's Basketball - $6,170,233
Davidson Expense for Men's Basketball - $1,144,821

KU Data Expense for Men's Basketball per player-
operating expense per player $104,812

Davidson Expense for Men's Basketball per player -
operating expense per player $15,467

Source: US Department of Education
Source: US Department of Education
http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/InstList.asp



Expenses by Team

Varsity Teams Men's Teams Women's Teams Total
Basketball $6,170,233 $2,886,570 $9,056,803
Grand Total Expenses $58,046,962

Davidson

Expenses by Team

Varsity Teams Men's Teams Women's Teams
Basketball $1,144,821 $839,626

Davidson

Operating Expenses by Team

Men's Teams
Varsity Teams Participants Operating Expenses per Participant By Team
Basketball 13 $15,467 $201,069

KU
Operating Expenses by Team

Men's Teams
Varsity Teams Participants Operating Expenses per Participant By Team
Basketball 17 $104,812 $1,781,810

University of Oklahoma
Football 125 $43,738 $5,467,255

University of Kansas
Football 126 $9,672 $1,218,631

Kansas is the only state that finished in the top ten at senior nationals without a D-I wrestling program.

Senior Nationals Team Results.

1- N.J. 230.5
2.- Mich 213
3.- Pa. 210
4.- Ohio 164
5.- Calf. 156
6.- Utah 135
7.- Minn. 134
8. - N.Y. 127.5
9. - Ill 104
10.- Kansas 103
10.- Missouri 103


Participation Numbers by State for each grade in Virginia last week.
Here were the numbers as of March 17:
State # Freshman # Sophomores # Juniors # Seniors Total Wrestlers
AK 1 2 4 7
AL 6 10 19 11 46
AZ 7 11 15 12 45
CA 9 29 25 37 100
CO 6 4 18 12 40
CT 10 9 8 9 36
DE 10 5 7 4 26
FL 8 3 5 14 30
GA 2 8 12 18 40
IA 2 4 4 5 15
ID 1 6 7 14
IL 5 11 26 13 55
IN 3 7 9 4 23
KS 7 2 30 39
KY 3 10 9 8 30
LA 8 20 21 4 53
MA 4 3 4 12 23
MD 11 10 24 14 59
ME 1 1 6 9 17
MI 28 28
MN 4 11 19 33 67
MO 2 6 16 28 52
MS 1 1
MT 2 2 7 1 12
NC 15 25 26 29 95
ND 1 2 2 6 11
NE 1 2 7 10
NH 1 1
NJ 32 41 49 32 154
NM 1 3 4 4 12
NV 2 11 2 4 19
NY 30 41 55 32 158
OH 17 24 35 35 111
OK 4 4
OR 2 6 13 4 25
PA 32 47 43 22 144
RI 1 1
SC 6 15 15 10 46
SD 2 2 1 5
TN 7 9 12 7 35
TX 1 6 7 6 20
UT 3 7 10 23 43
VA 16 18 26 18 78
VT 1 3 5 9
WA 3 3 9 12 27
WI 1 4 6 14 25
WV 8 8 12 6 34
WY 2 5 7 14
Grand Total 283 448 600 608 1939




Finalists by State:
CO- Meis
CA- Gendreau (sic), Collins
IL- Futrell, Ramos
NJ- Langel, Mason, Winston
PA- Cortese, Albright, Reber, Oliver, Bosak, Haddad
KS- Keller
FL- Sentes
OH- Skonieczny
MI- Weber, Bennett, Dubose, Pettengill
UT- Chamberlain
VA- Edwards
GA- Condon
ND- Johnson
MO- Haynes
OR- Geiger
NY- Colling

Why does OK have hardly anyone going to Nationals? Is their season not over yet?

Tim Sayers,

I was wondering the same thing about Oklahoma and Iowa and a few other states with lower numbers. Maybe a lot of those kids begin the freestyle/greco season earlier. Cost - lack of someone organizing the trip, etc. Some kids have already signed with schools - not sure of all the reasons.

Again Kansas only state on this list of top 15 states without a D-I program.

1993-2008 Senior Nationals
NATIONAL TITLES PER STATE (Individual)
Ohio (46)
California (32)
New Jersey (27)
Pennsylvania (22)
New York (16)
Oklahoma (10)
Michigan (9)
Illinois (8)
Utah (7)
Indiana (6)
Kansas (6)
Virginia (6)
Maryland (5)
Wisconsin (5)
Arizona (4)

Nice post Smokey. Wonder where Missouri is on the list?

Interesting. Missouri doubles Kansas in population and Kansas doubles Missouri in Senior National Champions since 1993. (A friendly poke at our fine neighbors to the East!)

NATIONAL TITLES PER STATE (Individual)
Ohio (46)
California (32)
New Jersey (27)
Pennsylvania (22)
New York (16)
Oklahoma (10)
Michigan (9)
Illinois (8)
Utah (7)
Indiana (6)
Kansas (6)
Virginia (6)
Maryland (5)
Wisconsin (5)
Arizona (4)
Florida (4)
Idaho (4)
Iowa (4)
Minnesota (4)
Delaware (3)
Georgia (3)
Montana (3)
Missouri (3)
New Mexico (3)
Washington (3)
Colorado (2)
North Carolina (2)
South Dakota (2)
South Carolina (2)
Tennessee (2)
West Virginia (2)
New Hampshire (1)
Oregon (1)
Wyoming (1)

Here are a few more important reasons to keep kids in state.

2007-2008
KWCA ACADEMIC TEAM
6A FIRST TEAM
Nathan McCormick Blue Valley North 6A
Tony Livengood Blue Valley North 6A
Brian Kerns Blue Valley NW 6A
George White Blue Valley NW 6A
Matt Cofer Blue Valley NW 6A
Pat Morton Blue Valley NW 6A
Blake Long Derby 6A
David Wilk Derby 6A
Josh Prewitt Derby 6A
Eddy Gomez Garden City 6A
Mark Blackburn Garden City 6A
Mitchell Benn Garden City 6A
Cord Gross Junction City 6A
Hector Acosta Junction City 6A
Jacob Wagner Manhattan 6A
Adam Anstine Olathe East 6A
Gabriel Jordan Olathe North 6A
Jason Seifert Olathe North 6A
Zach McCullough Olathe North 6A
Brad Cooper Olathe Northwest 6A
Steven Cooper Olathe Northwest 6A
Dan Cooper Olathe Northwest 6A
Derek Joseph Olathe Northwest 6A
Nathan Goens SE Wichita 6A
David Webb SM East 6A
Tyler Williams SM Northwest 6A
Eric Rolston SM South 6A
Thomas Grafton SM South 6A
Brandt Whittenburg SM West 6A
Keigan Stanley Washburn Rural 6A
Tatum Flores Wichita South 6A
6A HONORABLE MENTION
Jake Tanenbaum Blue Valley North 6A
Brandon Wagner Blue Valley NW 6A
Colton Snook Derby 6A
Coty Reinhart Derby 6A
Colt McElroy Garden City 6A
Brent Fisher Goddard 6A
Joe Irion Goddard 6A
Roman Villegas Goddard 6A
JT Kozlowski Junction City 6A
Phil Witt Leavenworth 6A
Brandon Bourn Maize 6A
Tim Dunham Maize 6A

2007-2008
KWCA ACADEMIC TEAM
Eric Rowlands Manhattan 6A
Steve Miller Manhattan 6A
Tucker Adams Manhattan 6A
Marcus Cisper Olathe East 6A
Andrew Collingwood SM East 6A
David Schrunk SM East 6A
Joey Lutz SM East 6A
Kenton Kloster SM East 6A
Matt Baker SM East 6A
Mark Roundtree SM South 6A
Shabir Sultani SM South 6A
Kalem Bennett Topeka High 6A
Gage Deere Washburn Rural 6A
5A FIRST TEAM
John Keller Bishop Carroll 5A
Jordan Keller Bishop Carroll 5A
Carlos Rosales Bishop Miege 5A
Aldon Isenberg Gardner 5A
Mitch Wood Hutchinson 5A
William Bowles JC Harmon 5A
Joe Bach Liberal 5A
Jeff Graber McPherson 5A
Matt Ahlstedt Newton 5A
Tyler Koehn Pittsburg 5A
Bryson Conaway Seaman 5A
Connor McCarthy St. Thomas Aquinas 5A
Eric Nachbar St. Thomas Aquinas 5A
Kevin Freeman Sumner Academy 5A
Seth Mertins Valley Center 5A
5A HONORABLE MENTION
Tyler Rosenhamer Bishop Carroll 5A
Brion Pusch Highland Park 5A
Paul Miller Liberal 5A
Jack Delashmit Mill Valley 5A
JR Logan Mill Valley 5A
Jerry Cox Sumner Academy 5A
Alex Taylor Turner 5A
Levi Hopper Valley Center 5A
4A FIRST TEAM
Nick Peterson Abilene 4A
Darin Stroot Andale 4A
Jake Enick Baldwin 4A
Nick Rockhold Baldwin 4A

2007-2008
KWCA ACADEMIC TEAM
Aaron Quisenberry Bishop Ward 4A
Josh Withers Burlington 4A
Ethan Jones Burlington 4A
Chris Gericke Chanute 4A
Ben Davis Clay Center 4A
Bryan Brewer Colby 4A
Cody Wark Colby 4A
Nick Kriss Colby 4A
Brandon Huber Concordia 4A
Christian Fazel Concordia 4A
Dirk Lowell Concordia 4A
Isaac Rothfurs Concordia 4A
Jordan Tholstrup Concordia 4A
Colton Lenville Douglass 4A
Evan Meyers Eudora 4A
Nick Moore Field Kindley 4A
Aaron Deeds Goodland 4A
Ren Scherling Goodland 4A
Rafael Ortiz Hugoton 4A
Austin Lee Jeff West 4A
Dylan Muman Jeff West 4A
Adam Lackey Smoky Valley 4A
Cameron Adcox Tonganoxie 4A
Austin Atwood Wamego 4A
Hal Rivard Wamego 4A
4A HONORABLE MENTION
Chris Stuart Augusta 4A
Corey Crawford Augusta 4A
Kevin Callahan Baldwin 4A
Daryn Young Buhler 4A
Logan Stoss Buhler 4A
Kenny Roney Burlington 4A
Blake Willmann Clay Center 4A
Chris Bowser Clay Center 4A
Spencer Hillel Clearwater 4A
Levi Whitley Concordia 4A
Joseph O'Crowley Douglass 4A
Travis Clarke Eudora 4A
Kade Sheldon Goodland 4A
Ryan Taylor Goodland 4A
Justin Simon Haven 4A
Ross Fishburn Haven 4A
Ryan Rune Haven 4A
Trevor Ukens Haven 4A
Chris Kirk Jeff West 4A
Nathan Martin Jeff West 4A
Tim Heckel Jeff West 4A
2007-2008
KWCA ACADEMIC TEAM
Aaron Arb Labette County 4A
Matt Lemke Louisburg 4A
Blaine Bogner Mulvane 4A
Ryan Malanchuk Mulvane 4A
Andy Stanton Prairie View 4A
Chris Ewing Santa Fe Trail 4A
Matt Ditty Tonganoxie 4A
Wally Rachford Tonganoxie 4A
321A FIRST TEAM
Matt Kiehl Atchison County 321A
Cody Eaton Bennington 321A
Aaron Wold Chase County 321A
Brendan Harshman Chase County 321A
Nathan Phipps Chase County 321A
Jay Obrien Cherryvale 321A
Jordan Johnson Council Grove 321A
Tyson Fore Council Grove 321A
Gage Reichert Decatur Comm. 321A
Elijah Dunn Donipan west 321A
John Tricks Ellis High 321A
Justin Gnad Ellis High 321A
Grady Stultz Goessel 321A
Alex Jost Hillsboro 321A
Colton Newel Holcomb 321A
Nolan Scott Horton 321A
Tommy Knapp Lincoln 321A
Lonnie Morris Mission Valley 321A
Alex Thomas Norton Community 321A
Travis Ray Norton Community 321A
Kelly Younkin Oakley 321A
Christopher Niehues Onaga 321A
Jordan Meyer Sabetha 321A
Matt Bosworth Sabetha 321A
Logan Numrich Scott Community 321A
Tyrel George Scott Community 321A
Colby Killinger Silver Lake 321A
Gavin Smull St. Francis 321A
Taylor Dirks Trego 321A
Marshall Frey Wichita Indpendent 321A
321A HONORABLE MENTION
Ryan Patterson Garden plain 321A
Zack Puetz Garden Plain 321A
Jacob Yoder Hillsboro 321A
Frankie Martin Hillsboro 321A
Clayton Rall Hoxie 321A
2007-2008
KWCA ACADEMIC TEAM
Kevin Moss Hoxie 321A
Quinn Aumiller Hoxie 321A
Nathan Kasting Lyons 321A
Jamie Thayer Neodesha 321A
Aaron Racette Oakley 321A
Cody Merriman Onaga 321A
Keath Thomas Phillipsburg 321A
Duane Zlatnik Rossville 321A
Micheal Provencher Rossville 321A
Grady Godsey Smith Center 321A
David Guthmiller St. Francis 321A
Justin Sherlock St. Francis 321A
Avery Crosby St. Marys 321A
Josh Carpenter St.Francis 321A
Nathan Palmer Stockton 321A
Cody Gray Wellsville 321A

Perhaps you didn't notice but the grade point average, of the 28 finalists in NHSCA Senior Nationals, was an amazing 3.31 ... that is 3.31!

David WIlk is from leavenworth