Yes yu are right dwelsh and windjammer There are kids that are abused but not in my presents yes I have puled my kid from practice and was upset with him just because he was not trying but we did not fight I realize there kids kids kids they ware out like we do maybe just as fast BUT so I take him soak him and tell him son if were tired were not doing us any good nor our partner any good you have to be willing to 100 percent for that 2 hours or take a few days off I would rather take day off not go in than watch my boy get frustrated with himself physically he just doesnt have the gas in the tank. Last year ws my sons first day and I took to evry tourney and i think I about pooped him out, but this yaer came around ready go again As for BuBBA he got 7th the two boys that beat him got 3rd and 5 so I was proud of that boy lost first match back against the wall he fought back like I knew he would and ripped off 5 straight pins. It was amazing too watxch the turn events and then to know that he also took 6th in subs at the 8 and under subs Jonathan