thanks Robin, my son is Jed from manhattan. did you see any of the matches at 105 in wichita. can you tell me about any other 105's in d4. I think top spot is between Derek and Elliot, others Iv,e seen are mayes,rosenhammer, nelson d1, sherwood, and bersuch. Jed's goal has been to place this year which is a tough goal. he'll have to wrestle better than he ever has to win against any the last five i mentioned. And from what i've seen this year these young men have the best character and sportsmanship i've had the pleasure to watch. Tell derek good luck from me, and all the others good luck also. I think that any young man that can make it to State has made a huge acomplishment. Any info will be appreciated. Jim Sicard