Taylor will be at 112 for Regionals. He went 119 at Derby because of the quality of the bracket. (Also, he got 4th and not 3rd losing to Davis 3-2.) Bobcat will have Ruiz and Callahan at 112, so will definetly be 112 for it. Possibly 119 at Holton where Gentzler will be. He wants to be in the bracket that will improve his wrestling, win or lose, but 112 will be the finishing weight.

(He and Kenny have NOT wrestled this year.)

Eric, I respectfully disagree. The reason I have commented so much on your current ranking of St. James as 9th ranked team in Kansas is that it is misleading to the young kids who are reading this topic. I know that a lot of them read this topic of your All Class Rankings and they tend to take them as gospel and not just your opinion. And that is all these rankings are they are just one man's opinion. You may be just presenting a picture of how your All Star invitational tournment would turn out based on your different scoring system for a tournament but that is not how many people are viewing it. They are really viewing it as these are the current best teams in Kansas. I am just pointing out that this is an incorrect way to view these rankings and to realize in looking at these rankings these are not official but only Eric Johnson's opinion.

Morning Vince,

No need to apologize to SJA. I have not heard that anyone was offended. Most of those involved have understood my team ranking criteria. I do plan to change the team rankings to reflect a different scenario than the Grand State format. To restate a point, your JOCO and Derby analogies are irrelevant. In a Grand State format, the 9th place team would likely score about 40 team points. With SJA having two finalists, that is where they land. I have been very clear about how my scoring method is different from a local tournament event. The discussion has been great but we have to get past the misunderstanding that the scoring is incorrect.

Team standing corrections are coming. Those rankings will not be representative of a Grand State tournament.

NEW TEAM RANKINGS! New format - Top 10 at each weight!


2008-09 All-Class Ranking:

TEAMS - All-Class:

1. Goddard - 6A
2. Wichita Heights - 6A
3. Derby - 6A
4. Emporia - 5A
5. Bishop Carroll - 5A
6. Clay Center - 4A
7. Norton - 321A
8. Smith Center - 321A
9. Colby - 4A
10 - Andale - 4A


103
1. Colby Watters - 9 - ARK - 5A
2. Roger Windham - 12 - DB - 6A
3. Luke Cole - 12 - AB - 4A
4. Aaron Seybold - 9 - PT - 5A
5. Bo Pursel - 9 - LS - 5A
6. Austin Hood - 9 - LOU - 4A
7. Konner Kriss - 9 - COL - 4A
8. Caleb Thomas - 9 - AC - 5A
9. Codie Dean - 11 - VC - 5A
10t. Chris Ceman - 11 - PH - 321A
10t. Colby Witten - 9 - MZ - 6A


112
1. Isaac Ruiz - 11 - JC - 6A
2. Alan Callahan - 12 - BAL - 4A
3. Taylor Moeder - 10 - SJA - 4A
4. Kenneth Ornelas - 12 - CH - 4A
5. Adrian Salas - 11 - LB - 5A
6. Dalton Davis - 10 - LA - 321A
7. Dalton Miller - 10 - WC - 6A
8. Dane Norris - 10 - MH - 6A
9. Caleb Seaton - 10 - BS - 5A
10t. Uylesses DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A
10t. Jack Wenzel - 12 - WN - 6A


119: Too many crazy matches this weekend. Pending ranking!


125
1. Chase Nitcher - 11 - VC - 5A
2. Daniel DeShazer - 10 - WH - 6A
3. Chaz Lawrence - 12 - OS - 6A
4. Zach Tanenbaum - 10 - BVN - 6A
5. Justin Rose - 12 - EMP - 5A
6. Symon Seaton - 10 - BL - 4A
7. Derek Weller - 11 - PI - 4A
8. Dylan Penka - 10 - BC - 5A
9. Alex Bontz - 9 - WI - 4A
10. Steven Plott - 10 - SS - 5A


130
1. Trent Cox - 12 - MZ - 6A
2. Ryne Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A
3. Colt Rogers - 11 - SC - 321A
4. Chase Sanchez - 10 - EMP - 5A
5. Spencer Blew - 10 - LS - 5A
6. Kaenon Keiswetter - 11 - NO - 321A
7. Rylan Dalke - 12 - NT - 5A
8. Zach Jesseph - 12 - CH - 4A
9. Nick Schwager - 11 - GB - 5A
10. Kash Biddle - 11 - ARK - 5A


135
1. C.J. Napier - 12 - CO - 4A
2. Kendric Maple - 12 - WH - 6A
3. Bryce Hood - 11 - LOU - 4A
4. Danny Floyd - 11 - OS - 321A
5. Tyler Anderson - 11 - CC - 4A
6. Sal Tovar - 12 - EMP - 5A
7. Ricky Creek - 12 - MRV - 321A
8. Tanner Weber - 12 - WE - 321A
9. James Medlin - 12 - HS - 4A
10. Vance Oliver - 11 - WIN - 5A


140
1. Joey Dozier - 11 - GC - 6A
2. Parker Madl - 11 - BV - 6A
3. Dustin Zahorsky - 12 - SL - 321A
4. Cade Blair - 11 - VC - 5A
5. Cameron Jesseph - 12 - CH - 4A
6. Cody Shavlik - 11 - DB - 6A
7. Codie Bontz - 11 - WI - 4A
8. Linwood Peoples - 12 - BVNW - 6A
9. Jesse Gantz - 12 - ST - 321A
10. Zack Bainter - 12 - NO - 321A


145
1. Mitchell Means - 12 - GD - 6A
2. Cas Spangler - 12 - BE - 321A
3. Colby Crank - 12 - HT - 5A
4. Cole Zoglman - 12 - GP - 321A
5. Kyle McGoldrick - 11 - VC - 5A
6. Tyler Davis - 11 - MCP - 5A
7. Trevor Rempe - 12 - SC - 321A
8. Jake Walker - 11 - STA - 5A
9. Josh Rodriguez - 11 - UL - 4A
10. Jake Hattabaugh - 10 - AN - 4A


152
1. Chris Watson - 12 - AC - 5A
2. Ryan Houlden - 12 - GD - 6A
3. Jordan Brown - 12 - PT - 5A
4. Nathan Sommer - 12 - PV - 4A
5. Travis Rempe - 12 - SC - 321A
6. Todd Curtis - 11 - GE - 5A
7. Corey Engstrom - 11 - HOI - 321A
8. Tyler Sutherland - 12 - LB - 5A
9. Derek Newell - 12 - UL - 4A
10. Blake Fulbright - 12 - MZ - 6A


160
1. Tyler Caldwell - 12 - GD - 6A
2. Kyle Detmer - 12 - BC - 5A
3. Benny Armstrong - 11 - AN - 4A
4. David Lalo - 12 - OE - 6A
5. Ryan Wuthnow - 11 - AB - 4A
6. Chaston Hoeme - 12 - SC - 4A
7. Jess Lemon - 12 - CH - 4A
8. Ethan Mumaw - 10 - JW - 4A
9. Tyler Baughman - 10 - LS - 5A
10. Camron Leupold - 10 - HIA - 4A


171
1. Breck Arnberger - 12 - CB - 4A
2. Chase Nelson - 12 - WH - 6A
3. Alex Feldkamp - 12 - DB - 6A
4. Jake Price - 12 - CV - 4A
5. Jonathan Truman - 11 - KMC - 5A
6. Greg Curtis - 12 - GE - 5A
7. Cole Geisen - 12 - HOL - 4A
8. Noel Richardson 12 - CH - 4A
9. Dallas Elliott - 12 - GD - 6A
10. Josh VanHolland - 12 - MV - 5A


189
1. Boaz Beard - 12 - GD - 6A
2. Mark Kolmer - 11 - EMP - 5A
3. Joel Marrs - 12 - CC - 4A
4. Aron Elsen - 12 - GB - 5A
5. Nate Davis - 12 - LB - 5A
6. Luke Hirschler - 12 - BC - 5A
7. Brandon Reif - 12 - WC - 6A
8. Darnell Bortz - 12 - PRT - 4A
9. Nathan Wessell - 10 - LS - 5A
10. Ryan Revoir - 12 - OE - 6A


215
1. Tanner Kriss - CB - 4A
2. Kyle Caylor - 11 - WNW - 6A
3. Steven Kyler - 12 - EL - 321A
4. Jacob Nowak - 12 - STA - 5A
5. Jake Woten - 12 - OE - 6A
6. Howard Johnson - 12 - GB - 5A
7. Josh Hicks - 11 - GD - 6A
8. Jake Cole - 12 - BC - 5A
9. Michael Patenaude - 12 - CC - 4A
10. Kendall Pierce - 12 - CIR - 4A


285
1. B.J. Finney - 11 - AN - 4A
2. Brock Heithaus - 11 - WNW - 6A
3. Lucas Vincent - 11 - ON - 6A
4. Lorenzo Serna - 12 - EMP - 5A
5. Tony Marquez - 12 - BC - 5A
6. Kyle Westmoreland - 12 - DB - 6A
7. J.J. Rice - 11 - PH - 321A
8. Ross Addison - 12 - CI - 321A
9. Ricky Gomez - 12 - LB - 5A
10. Michael Starnes - 12 - AC - 5A

Moeder is a great wrestler and certainly worthy of the 2 spot, but I would think you would have to give Ornelas the edge by virtue of his head to head victory at state last year in their only meeting as far as I am aware.

You can rank wrestlers and teams all you want but until there is a Grand State to determine the truth then it will always be a just a "ranking"... Also I would question the criteria for the rankings because I guarantee 321a would get more then 6 medals out of 52 places. This is based on placing just the top 4 placers in each weight class. Also 321a would have more then "zero" Grand Champions..

they only shot 321a would have of not having "zero" grand champions would be at 130 and 40. i have never seen madl wrestle so if zahorsky indeed wreslted him in a finals matchup i couldnt predict the outcome. although i have seen all the of the top competitors at 30 wrestle and rogers would have his hands full with cokeley and especially cox. that kid is SOLID!!

We should see Zahorsky and Madl this weekend! 321A would have a real shot at 140, 145, 215 and possibly 130. No slight on 321A here.

it would be interesting to see if spangler has what it takes to go the distance with means. i apologize for over looking 321a's 215 pounder.

Fyi- If the report is correct Hewitt of Beloit just beat Keiswetter of Norton in the finals of the Norton tourney last week 4-3.

Sorry. Hewitt beat L. Keiswetter not K. keiswetter

321A would not have any grand state champs!

130 would definitely go to either 4a or 6a.

145 goes to 6a

Don't know Madl or Zahorsky to tell, but Blair and Dozier are tough.

6a or 4a would be tough to bet against in 215.

That foursome at 140 would be very tough! You can throw Linwood Peoples in there too. He had an amazing match with Madl last night, losing 5-4 in the last 8 seconds.

Just curious why @ 152 Curtis is ranked above Sutherland when Sutherland placed 4th @ 152 last year and Curtis placed 4th @ 145?

Don't worry about it too much, they will get a chance to settle it at Newton this weekend!

2008-09 All-Class Ranking:

TEAMS - All-Class:

1. Goddard - 6A
2. Emporia - 5A
3. Colby - 4A
4. Clay Center - 4A
5. Liberal - 5A
6. Wichita Heights - 6A
7. Derby - 6A
8. Bishop Carroll - 5A
9. Smith Center - 321A
10. Lansing - 5A


103
1. Colby Watters - 9 - ARK - 5A
2. Roger Windham - 12 - DB - 6A
3. Luke Cole - 12 - AB - 4A
4. Aaron Seybold - 9 - PT - 5A
5. Bo Pursel - 9 - LS - 5A
6. Austin Hood - 9 - LOU - 4A
7. Konner Kriss - 9 - COL - 4A
8. Caleb Thomas - 9 - AC - 5A
9. Chris Ceman - 11 - PH - 321A
10. Colby Witten - 9 - MZ - 6A


112
1. Kenneth Ornelas - 12 - CH - 4A
2. Isaac Ruiz - 11 - JC - 6A
3. Alan Callahan - 12 - BAL - 4A
4. Taylor Moeder - 10 - SJA - 4A
5. Dalton Miller - 11 - WC - 6A
6. Nathan Reed - 11 - CB - 4A
7. Adrian Salas - 11 - LB - 5A
8. Dalton Davis - 10 - LA - 321A
9. Dane Norris - 10 - MH - 6A
10. Caleb Seaton - 10 - BS - 5A


119
1. Zac Sparr - 12 - RH - 4A
2. Nathan Furches - 12 - CL - 4A
3. Jake Gentzler - 11 - AC - 4A
4. Jeff Vesta - 12 - MH - 6A
5. Garrett Jones - 11 - ARK - 5A
6. Tyler Stokes - 12 - GE - 5A
7. Dondre Davis - 12 - WH - 6A
8. Logan Singular - 10 - CC - 4A
9. Blaine Smith - 11 - SS - 5A
10. Dan Weigel - 12 - PL - 321A


125
1. Chase Nitcher - 11 - VC - 5A
2. Daniel DeShazer - 10 - WH - 6A
3. Chaz Lawrence - 12 - OS - 6A
4. Zach Tanenbaum - 10 - BVN - 6A
5. Justin Rose - 12 - EMP - 5A
6. Derek Weller - 11 - PI - 4A
7. Symon Seaton - 10 - BL - 4A
8. Jace Campbell - OA - 11 - 321A
9. Dylan Penka - 10 - BC - 5A
10. Alex Bontz - 9 - WI - 4A


130
1. Trent Cox - 12 - MZ - 6A
2. Ryne Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A
3. Colt Rogers - 11 - SC - 321A
4. Spencer Blew - 10 - LS - 5A
5. Kash Biddle - 11 - ARK - 5A
6. Rylan Dalke - 12 - NT - 5A
7. Zach Peters - 11 - AG - 4A
8. Nick Schwager - 11 - GB - 5A
9. Aaron Geist - 12 - OS - 321A
10. Victor Cruz - 12 - LB - 5A


135
1. C.J. Napier - 12 - CO - 4A
2. Kendric Maple - 12 - WH - 6A
3. Bryce Hood - 11 - LOU - 4A
4. Danny Floyd - 11 - OS - 321A
5. Tyler Anderson - 11 - CC - 4A
6. Sal Tovar - 12 - EMP - 5A
7. Ricky Creek - 12 - MRV - 321A
8. Tanner Weber - 12 - WE - 321A
9. James Medlin - 12 - HS - 4A
10. Vance Oliver - 11 - WIN - 5A


140
1. Joey Dozier - 11 - GC - 6A
2. Parker Madl - 11 - BV - 6A
3. Dustin Zahorsky - 12 - SL - 321A
4. Cade Blair - 11 - VC - 5A
5. Cameron Jesseph - 12 - CH - 4A
6. Cody Shavlik - 11 - DB - 6A
7. Jesse Gantz - 12 - ST - 321A
8. Codie Bontz - 11 - WI - 4A
9. Linwood Peoples - 12 - BVNW - 6A
10. Zack Bainter - 12 - NO - 321A


145
1. Mitchell Means - 12 - GD - 6A
2. Cas Spangler - 12 - BE - 321A
3. Colby Crank - 12 - HT - 5A
4. Cole Zoglman - 12 - GP - 321A
5. Kyle McGoldrick - 11 - VC - 5A
6. Tyler Davis - 11 - MCP - 5A
7. Trevor Rempe - 12 - SC - 321A
8. Jake Walker - 11 - STA - 5A
9. Josh Rodriguez - 11 - UL - 4A
10. Jake Hattabaugh - 10 - AN - 4A


152
1. Chris Watson - 12 - AC - 5A
2. Ryan Houlden - 12 - GD - 6A
3. Jordan Brown - 12 - PT - 5A
4. Nathan Sommer - 12 - PV - 4A
5. Tyler Sutherland - 12 - LB - 5A
6. Todd Curtis - 11 - GE - 5A
7. David Lalo - 12 - OE - 6A
8. Corey Engstrom - 11 - HOI - 321A
9. Derek Newell - 12 - UL - 4A
10. Reece Wright-Conklin - 9 - LAW - 6A


160
1. Tyler Caldwell - 12 - GD - 6A
2. Kyle Detmer - 12 - BC - 5A
3. Benny Armstrong - 11 - AN - 4A
4. Travis Rempe - 12 - SC - 321A
5. Ryan Wuthnow - 11 - AB - 4A
6. Chaston Hoeme - 12 - SC - 4A
7. Tyler Baughman - 10 - LS - 5A
8. Jess Lemon - 12 - CH - 4A
9. Ethan Mumaw - 10 - JW - 4A
10. Camron Leupold - 10 - HIA - 4A


171
1. Breck Arnberger - 12 - CB - 4A
2. Chase Nelson - 12 - WH - 6A
3. Alex Feldkamp - 12 - DB - 6A
4. Noel Richardson - 12 - CH - 4A
5. Tyler Hasenbank - 12 - CON - 4A
6. Jake Price - 12 - CV - 4A
7. Jonathan Truman - 11 - KMC - 5A
8. Greg Curtis - 12 - GE - 5A
9. Cole Geisen - 12 - HOL - 4A
10. Dallas Elliott - 12 - GD - 6A


189
1. Boaz Beard - 12 - GD - 6A
2. Mark Kolmer - 11 - EMP - 5A
3. Joel Marrs - 12 - CC - 4A
4. Aron Elsen - 12 - GB - 5A
5. Nate Davis - 12 - LB - 5A
6. Luke Hirschler - 12 - BC - 5A
7. Treat Bugbee - 12 - CB - 4A
8. Darnell Bortz - 12 - PRT - 4A
9. Nathan Wessell - 10 - LS - 5A
10. Ryan Revoir - 12 - OE - 6A


215
1. Tanner Kriss - CB - 4A
2. Kyle Caylor - 11 - WNW - 6A
3. Steven Kyler - 12 - EL - 321A
4. Jacob Nowak - 12 - STA - 5A
5. Jake Woten - 12 - OE - 6A
6. Howard Johnson - 12 - GB - 5A
7. Josh Hicks - 11 - GD - 6A
8. Jake Cole - 12 - BC - 5A
9. Michael Patenaude - 12 - CC - 4A
10. Kendall Pierce - 12 - CIR - 4A


285
1. B.J. Finney - 11 - AN - 4A
2. Brock Heithaus - 11 - WNW - 6A
3. Lucas Vincent - 11 - ON - 6A
4. Lorenzo Serna - 12 - EMP - 5A
5. Kyle Westmoreland - 12 - DB - 6A
6. Tony Marquez - 12 - BC - 5A
7. J.J. Rice - 11 - PH - 321A
8. Ross Addison - 12 - CI - 321A
9. Ricky Gomez - 12 - LB - 5A
10. Michael Starnes - 12 - AC - 5A

Jesse Gantz beat Codie Bontz 10-5 in the finals at halstead

Biddle beat Dalke at Newton yesterday and then beat Rose tonight at 130.

Who beat Furches at Clearwater?