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Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: DamonParker] #137339 01/29/09 08:44 PM
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Wonder how many will swallow rather than be removed from premises--(lol)--is this something that ANYONE is enforcing?

Since everyone that is a coach understands this --- do the coach's need to be educating the parents?

Who will enforce this? As well as in the practice room?


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Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: in it to win it] #137345 01/29/09 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted By: in it to win it
Wonder how many will swallow rather than be removed from premises

I find that lot's of water makes gutting it much easier! laugh


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Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: DamonParker] #137346 01/29/09 09:25 PM
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what about the rule of no food or drinks in the gym. that would take care of most everything. why not have someone at the doors checking that stuff

Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: bigdad79] #137350 01/29/09 09:37 PM
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No Food and Drinks rule is not in the HS Rulebook, while the tobacco issue is.


That is the point of this thread!



Jeff

Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: Jeff Broadbent] #137351 01/29/09 09:49 PM
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does it not say no food or drink in the gym on almost every door entering the gym i think it does so whos rule is it. what im saying is no cups or bottles in the gym no spit cups am i right?

Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: bigdad79] #137352 01/29/09 09:51 PM
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also if no one is policing it people are going to do it right?

Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: bigdad79] #137360 01/29/09 11:43 PM
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so if everyone knows up front about the taboco rule and they do so anyway. are they or are they not saying the rules does not apply to me and we can do what we want?


"Saints should always be judged guilty until they are proved innocent"

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Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: nix] #137362 01/29/09 11:59 PM
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YES THEY ARE. SO WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT IT?

Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: bigdad79] #137363 01/30/09 12:09 AM
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YOU KICK THEM OUT OF EVERY TOURNAMENT, AND AFTER SO MANY EJECTIONS THERE EITHER GOING TO STAY HOME OR DO IT ELSEWHERE WHERE THE DON'T GET CAUGHT. THATS WHAT YOU DO ABOUT THAT...

AFTER EVERY EJECTION THE BANNED FROM THESE EVENTS GET LONGER AND LONGER I THINK.

but on the other hand if you are going to enforce one rule in the book, you need to enforce all the rules.


"Saints should always be judged guilty until they are proved innocent"

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Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: nix] #137365 01/30/09 12:11 AM
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these are kids events where do tobacco products fit in, i am a smoker, and if there is not a place out side for smoking i walk to my truck, just so the kids don't see no bad habits from myself.

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"Saints should always be judged guilty until they are proved innocent"

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Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: nix] #137366 01/30/09 12:17 AM
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I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU NIX,I DO NOT CHEW OR SMOKE. I JUST SAYING IF YOU ARE ENFORCING RULES ENFORCE ALL OF THEM NOT THE ONES YOU PICK AND CHOOSE

Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: bigdad79] #137367 01/30/09 12:18 AM
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SORRY FOR THE ALL CAPS, IM WORKING AND THATS THE WAY OUR COMPUTERS ARE SET UP

Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: bigdad79] #137368 01/30/09 12:18 AM
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i would aggree if you enforce 1 enforce all.


"Saints should always be judged guilty until they are proved innocent"

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Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: nix] #137370 01/30/09 12:24 AM
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BUT YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I DO THEY DONT, SO HERE IN LIES THE PROBLEM DO YOU EJECT EVERYONE OR DO YOU PICK YOUR BATTLES?

Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: DamonParker] #137372 01/30/09 12:30 AM
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MY THEORY IS I HOPE I HAVE TAUGHT MY KIDS WELL ENOUGH IN THE DIFFERENCE OF WHAT IS GOOD AND BAD THAT THEY DONT EVEN THINK TWICE IF THEY SEE SOMEONE SMOKING, CHEWING OR EVEN DRINKING AND THEY KNOW ITS NOT A GOOD HABIT TO HAVE. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN

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Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: bigdad79] #137373 01/30/09 12:31 AM
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i would say if it's in the rule book enforce it, if it's a school thing or a rule the tournament direcdtor has set forth let the club hosting the tournament deal with those issues.


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Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: nix] #137375 01/30/09 12:40 AM
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Tobacco usage is a State law!

No food or drinks in the Gym is a regulation!

Regardless both should be enforced and we should not consider ourselves the exception!


Are you making a POSITIVE difference in the life of kids?

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Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: usawks1] #137376 01/30/09 12:49 AM
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YES I UNDERSTAND THE LAWS AS I AM A POLICE OFFICER. IT SHOULD BE ALL OR NOTHING AND HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT ENFORCING THESE ISSUES

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Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: Jeff Broadbent] #137377 01/30/09 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted By: Jeff Broadbent
No Food and Drinks rule is not in the HS Rulebook, while the tobacco issue is.


That is the point of this thread!

Jeff


And this is the key, when we allow someone to practice what rules out of the rule book they want, then we no longer have an appropriate sport. To the officials, especially, enforce the rules, including this one. If you don't like the rules, as outlined in the book, and adopted by the HS and Kids Federation, go through appropriate channels to change the rule, otherwise, I don't like the slam rule, I think kids should be allowed to slam another wrestler to the mat. (JK of course but hope it drives the point home.) I would ask a serious question though, why, if this is a rule, which it is, why is it not enforced. If it is not, and it normally is not, then we have gone beyond judgment to a clear violation of rules and are allowing individual tournaments and officials to establish the rules.

Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: Mike Furches] #137381 01/30/09 01:50 AM
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Everyone needs to put a dip in and relax,your all getting worked up over something you cant controll.
This is why they invented tobacco products in the first place.
so people can "chill out"
LOL.


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