jcw. Here is a tip for you and your team mates. It takes more than two kids to place at state to win it as a team and until Trail can find away to place 5 or 6 then Trail wrestling will be what it always has. Even though you battle tuff and don't win state, no one ever remembers that. If you guys ever win state you will no what i mean. Trail has as good as freshman as there is but... can you and your team mates improve enough to get 5 or 6 with a champion or 2.??? Can your coaching staff teach you the things you lack? Are you coachable enough to let them? There are lots of little things that go along with a successful program. We'll see if you guys have it or not. Sounds like you have alot of kids wrestling in kids so thats a good step. Summer wrestling makes winter champions. Good luck!mb