Furches: I see he has two losses. Any one know who they were to and what the score was (approximations are fine!)?

The same question for: Zake Peters, Ryne Cokeley, Cameron Jesseph, Derek Newell, Nathan Sommer, Darnell Bortz??? -- Who beat these guys?

Thanks to any one that can help on any of these.

probably have to look at some of the okie tournaments they go to.

probably have to look at some of the okie tournaments they go to.

I believe Sparr and Gentzler beat Furches.

Jason Murdock

I think Dylan Penka gave Peters a loss.
Cokelely has lost to Napier and I think a Colorado kid.
A loss of Jesseph's is from Parker Madl.

Cokeley lost 8-2 to Ethan Davis, a sophomore from Monett, MO.

Also, an interesting aside, Zach Peters is originally from Monett, MO and started wrestling through our our kids club.

Thank you. And, thanks to the other about the OK tourneys.

Thanks a bunch for the info.

Wow, 8-2!? Is Davis a state champ or what!?

I was born and raised in Indep., Mo - just east of KC, MO. I am not familiar with Monett. Where is it located at? Back in the early 80's when I wrestled - the MO powerhouses were Oak Grove, Blue Springs, Oak Park, Park Hill and some school in the St. Louis area (St. Francis???) that won about 10 titles in a row. My old memory is losing me tonight.

Take care.

Monett's been cranking out quite a few good kids the past few years with Kyle Meyer wining his four straight title, Kellen Bounous won his third I belive, Ben Hohnesee won a title a few years ago (will be a 2x All-American at Labette), and Dakota Greenhaw who was a senior nationals All-American a few years ago.

Now they have a former wrestler who will be a two time state finalist in Kansas.

Davis was a state champ last year as a freshman and finished 2nd at state last week. In the match against Cokeley, if I remember correctly, both of Cokeley's points came when Davis cut him.

Monett is a small town located about halfway between Joplin and Springfield. Monett is a Class 2 school which is the second smallest class in Missouri, Class 1 being the smallest schools and Class 4 the biggest.

Bortz lost in the Liberal finals to Nate Davis from Liberal, who is in the 5A finals. Newell lost to Sutherland from Liberal in the same tourney, who is in the 5A finals, and a fluke (I think)loss in the GC tourney.

We have had a pretty good run of kids recently for a small town. Would have been even better if we could have kept some from moving. Zach Peters moved away when he was about 12, Nathan Fine who was a 2 time Class 4 medalists for Pattonville moved to St. Louis when he was 13 or 14. We also had another kid (and I can't remember his name right now) that moved to Kansas and was a medalist there and I think he was or is wrestling for Pratt. That was a pretty tough youth practice room for a small town when you have those kids and add in these:

Kyle Meyer, Sr, career record 173-2, finished 1,1,1,1 at state (has signed to wrestle for Stanford)
Kellen Bounous, Sr, 173-2, 2,1,1,1 (has signed to wrestle for Missouri)
Michael Merritt, Sr, 153-28, 3,4,2,3 (looking at Wartburg I heard)
Ethan Davis, So, 87-2, 1,2
and a few other state medalists.

Also Zach Bintliff (currently wrestles for Oak Park and finished 2,x,2,1 - will wrestle for Princeton next year) used to come work out with us in youth.

Ben Hohensee is from Monett and is a 2x AA at Labette. Dakota Greenhaw is a RS Sophomore currently wrestling for Northern Illinois and was the MAC wrestler of the week last week.

Gotta love those small towns that crank out wrestlers. You guys have to have some good fishing and bowhunting there, right?

the monett program is very good, many state finalist over the past few years.

have heard talk of how tough your kids program is at monett, have also coached baseball against the monett teams. very good parental support, you should all feel proud. my nephew and a few others from our club come over and practice at diamond and seneca a couple of times a month. they practice with some of the monett kids, and have become really good friends. we used to wrestle more south west missouri schools, at pittsburg high, but have stuck with kansas and oklahome over the past couple of years.

A lot of those losses are to 5 and 6A kids. Food for thought for all those who have been blasting 5 and 6A for the last few weeks.

Ethan has beaten Ryne four times in the last three years including a finals match at Tulsa Nationals. Monett has a great program but Ethan is also a Tony Purler pupil. He attended Tony's weekly Ray-Pec sessions and his summer camps for several years before getting into high school.

Dan Frank beat Ryne in Garden City. Dan is a 2x CO state champ and placed 2nd and 3rd. He closed out his HS career last week with over 150 wins.

CJ Napier beat Ryne at the Bobcat.


So none of Ryne's losses are to 5A and 6A wrestlers.

In fact, Westfahl, very few of the losses the aforementioned 4A wrestlers received were from 5A and 6A wrestlers. Let us match up the 4, 5, and 6 guys from 4A against the same placers for 5A and 6A. It will be a slaughter as 4A's depth is superior to 5A and 6A.

I wasn't talking about your sons losses but rather the other kids that were listed here. I know you are sensitive about your own son but it was the other listed kids and their matches I was alluding to. They match up all the time all over the state. They've all seen each other over and over year after year and there are great kids in every classification. I just think the 5 and 6A kids have sort of gotten worked over on this forum for no good reason. It is hard to make broad generalizations over kids (i.e. "slaughter") Kids are kids and there are good ones, and great ones all over from all kinds of towns. The rest of it is just a lot of hot air. My opinion of course.

103 the top 4 in 5a alone could beat the best in 4a by pin more than likely
112 i would give to 4a
119 would be close either way
125 5a would dominate, your son also
130 it would be close since the 4a guy fair
135 napier wins
140 5a wins this easy
145 5a with another win
152 5a again
160 detmer pins anyone in your whole 4a
171 5a in a close match
189 the third place guy in 5a would pin everyone in your 4a
215 pretty close but would have to go with kriss
285 finney too tough
as you can see didn't even need to throw 6a into this becuase 5a would beat 4a alone, so looks like cokeley doesn't know all like he thinks he does. You remind me of the dad on friday night lights the jd mccoy's dad your crazy you always bad mouth someone and act like your the greatest thing to come to kansas wrestling but your a joke..................