4A Regional Disparity
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Ulysses Regional 5 Ranked teams 33 Ranked wrestlers .393%
Abilene Regional 3 Ranked teams 23 Ranked wrestlers .274%
Caney Valley Regional 3 Ranked teams 18 Ranked wrestlers .214%
Spring Hill Regional 0 Ranked Teams 10 Ranked wrestlers .119%
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Re: 4A Regional Disparity
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And Ornelas, Moeder and Callahan at 112 at Spring Hill.
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Re: 4A Regional Disparity
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Probably don't want to place 2nd,3rd or 4th at another regional at that weight! Might make for a tough first match at state!
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Re: 4A Regional Disparity
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Remember when it used to be that way 3-2-1A? I would venture to say over 50% of the state placers came out of NW regional, and probably 75% of those came out of NWKL (Sainty, Atwood, Oberlin, Norton, Hoxie, Oakley)
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Re: 4A Regional Disparity
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And Ornelas, Moeder and Callahan at 112 at Spring Hill. Ornelas won't see these two until State because Chanute attends the Caney Valley Regional. If you want to start the argument of why one regional is tougher than another just look at the programs that are attending these regionals. Out west many of these schools have sponsored wrestling since its inception in the Dirty Thirties. There is a tradition in the communities of good wrestling. These schools have plenty of parent involvement so many of the wrestlers have been participating since they popped out of the womb. Many of the Kansas City area schools are newer schools in the past 20 years putting them behind the likes of Colby, Clay Center, Andale, Abilene, and Scott City. Schools in the southeast portion of the state like Columbus, Caney, and Chanute not only have something in common that thye start with a "C" but that much like the western Kansas schools they have a tradition. But then you get into the argument of why are schools like Wichita Independent so good they just started wrestling in the past 10 years. This is because they have excellent youth programs to draw from and a good coaching staff. It also doesn't hurt that the type of athlete they pull in have better resources(cash). I don't think it will be long before a program like St. James will also be seeing the same if not better success that Independent is starting to have.
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Re: 4A Regional Disparity
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02/14/09 01:02 AM
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I wrestled 171 last year and didn't qualify for state. i know a couple of kids out west did qualify for state that i beat. Would you rather Colby or Scott City travel to Spring Hill?
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Re: 4A Regional Disparity
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I think they would prefer it. Qualify more kids and pwn some noobs from the east. Plus, Scott City would have more chances to flaunt their trucker caps and unitards.
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Re: 4A Regional Disparity
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Whats the deal your jealous of the unitards I bet we can get the whole region some!
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Re: 4A Regional Disparity
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Well, i think as far as the "region" goes, it is split up well. Just from a traveling point. I also think there will be an eastern team make a lot of noise at state.
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Re: 4A Regional Disparity
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Well, I guess you can try to make that arguement to Wellington as they drive the nearly 5 hours to get to Ulysses. How many of those 'other' regional schools are sleeping in their own beds on Friday night? Meanwhile, some of those western schools will drive an hour to get to a Hotel Friday night.
There has got to be a better way...what it is, I have no idea.
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Re: 4A Regional Disparity
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Abilene High School – Will Burton, Regional Manager Abilene, Atchison, Carbondale-Santa Fe Trail, Chapman, Clay Center-Clay Center Comm., Concordia, Hiawatha, Holton, Hoyt-Royal Valley, Lindsborg-Smoky Valley, Meriden-Jefferson West, Perry--Perry-Lecompton, Tonganoxie, Topeka-Hayden, Wamego
Caney Valley High School – Criss Davis, Regional Manager Altamont-Labette County, Andover, Augusta, Caney-Caney Valley, Chanute, Coffeyville-Field Kindley, Columbus, El Dorado, Fort Scott, Independence, Iola, Mulvane, Parsons, Rose Hill, Towanda-Circle
Spring Hill High School – Jeff Miller & Tucker Woofter, Regional Managers Baldwin, Basehor-Basehor-Linwood, DeSoto, Eudora, Garnett-Anderson County, Kansas City-Bishop Ward, Kansas City-Piper, Kansas City-Sumner Academy, LaCygne-Prairie View, Lenexa-Saint James Academy, Louisburg, Osawatomie, Ottawa, Paola, Spring Hill
Ulysses High School – Lee Gillen, Regional Manager Andale, Buhler, Cheney, Clearwater, Colby, Haven, Hesston, Hugoton, Nickerson, Pratt, Russell, Scott City-Scott Community, Ulysses, Wellington, Wichita-The Independent School State Champion predictions:
103 - Spring Hill Regional 112 - Spring Hill Regional 119 - Ulysses Regional 125 - Spring Hill Regional 130 - Spring Hill Regional 135 - Caney Regional 140 - Caney Regional 145 - Ulysses Regional 152 - Spring Hill Regional 160 - Ulysses Regional 171 - Ulysses Regional 189 - Abilene Regional 215 - Ulysses Regional 285 - Ulysses Regional
Last edited by Cokeley; 02/16/09 07:00 PM. Reason: It was late!
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Re: 4A Regional Disparity
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State Champion predictions:
103 - Louisburg Regional 112 - Louisburg Regional 119 - Ulysses Regional 125 - Louisburg Regional 130 - Louisburg Regional 135 - Caney Regional 140 - Caney Regional 145 - Ulysses Regional 152 - Louisburg Regional 160 - Ulysses Regional 171 - Ulysses Regional 189 - Abilene Regional 215 - Ulysses Regional 285 - Ulysses Regional Is there a Regional at Louisburg?
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Re: 4A Regional Disparity
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he had to mean spring hill. they are close together and both have the same school colors.
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the regional that louisburg is at is spring hill i think
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Re: 4A Regional Disparity
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At 103, I would go with Ulysses.
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I'll give ya a hint. I’m a famous stock car racer who enjoys dining at Applebee's with his family. Also likes to play with GI Joes in the jacuzzi. Who am I?
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Re: 4A Regional Disparity
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careful exploring caves with gi joe in the tub ricky, big brown sharks live in there. i know this, because eddie murphy said so.
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Re: 4A Regional Disparity
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That sneaky Cobra Commander thinks he can pull a fast one on RB with his turd sharks, he better think again.
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Re: 4A Regional Disparity
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Abilene High School – Will Burton, Regional Manager Abilene, Atchison, Carbondale-Santa Fe Trail, Chapman, Clay Center-Clay Center Comm., Concordia, Hiawatha, Holton, Hoyt-Royal Valley, Lindsborg-Smoky Valley, Meriden-Jefferson West, Perry--Perry-Lecompton, Tonganoxie, Topeka-Hayden, Wamego
Caney Valley High School – Criss Davis, Regional Manager Altamont-Labette County, Andover, Augusta, Caney-Caney Valley, Chanute, Coffeyville-Field Kindley, Columbus, El Dorado, Fort Scott, Independence, Iola, Mulvane, Parsons, Rose Hill, Towanda-Circle
Spring Hill High School – Jeff Miller & Tucker Woofter, Regional Managers Baldwin, Basehor-Basehor-Linwood, DeSoto, Eudora, Garnett-Anderson County, Kansas City-Bishop Ward, Kansas City-Piper, Kansas City-Sumner Academy, LaCygne-Prairie View, Lenexa-Saint James Academy, Louisburg, Osawatomie, Ottawa, Paola, Spring Hill
Ulysses High School – Lee Gillen, Regional Manager Andale, Buhler, Cheney, Clearwater, Colby, Haven, Hesston, Hugoton, Nickerson, Pratt, Russell, Scott City-Scott Community, Ulysses, Wellington, Wichita-The Independent School
State Champion predictions: Predicted Actual 103 - Spring Hill Regional - Caney 112 - Spring Hill Regional - 119 - Ulysses Regional - 125 - Spring Hill Regional - Caney 130 - Spring Hill Regional - 135 - Caney Regional - 140 - Caney Regional - 145 - Ulysses Regional - 152 - Spring Hill Regional - 160 - Ulysses Regional - Caney 171 - Ulysses Regional - 189 - Abilene Regional - Ulysses 215 - Ulysses Regional - 285 - Ulysses Regional - Caney No champions from the Abilene regional. 6 Caney, 5 Ulysses, 3 Spring Hill. Someone else can do the placers.
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