Scooby:

I do not think Contrarian's topic and intent to add more weight classes is meant for making kids feel good about being varsity. I think Contrarian is saying that the 70 pound differntial between 215 and 285 is too great of a percentage change.

Now the two alternative systems (Montana and the NAIA system) would have the objective of giving more than one opportunity in a weight class for a school to compete at the varsity level.

You say you have no problem with great wrestlers wrestling JV if they cannot beat the varsity kid. There actually were two such situations that I know of this year. First at Wichita Northwest where they had the returning State champions from 2008 in Kyle Caylor 215 and Brock Heithaus at 285. They also had a returning state qualifier in Trey Page 189 in 2008 who had grown into a heavyweight in 2009. The way it worked out Heithaus got hurt and Page was able to wrestle heavyweight instead. Page ended up second at State 285 6A which Heithaus had won the year before. Chief Renegade has Page ranked 5th all class in his final rankings. There is little doubt that Heithaus would have also been at this level if he had been able to defend his state title this year. You are saying that this doesn't bother you that one of the top six 285 guys in the state would not be able to wrestle varsity just because they both go to the same school? Personally I view that as a shortcoming in high school wrestling.

Olathe North also had both Lucas Vincent 2009 State Champion and #1 ranked in Chief's All Class rankings and Oliver Venegas on their squad at the beginning of the year. Oliver's brother is a former state champion and Oliver is an All State football player. I believe Oliver would also have been a high state placer and most likely have also made Chief's top ten list. I think these type of kids deserve the opportunity to compete at the high school varsity level just like two 60 foot shot putters from the same school have the oppotunity to compete for the state title in track & field. The Montana or NAIA system would allow for it to happen.


Vince Nowak
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