It appears to me that some times there is too much emphasis on the "kids state" in the rankings, class and all class, and subsequent discussions pertaining to the rankings. Kids state is definitely a measurement and perhaps even an "important" measurement. But to me other things, specifically how they did during the high school season or at Fargo, etc., are more important. We all know that kids state is not as important to most kids. They probably do not apply themselves as much in their kids state quest. They are not in as good of shape usually and they may not be at the "best" weight for them. I wholeheartedly agree that kids state is not high school state. I am not saying to "overlook" it. I understand that some times it is the only way to measure kids against each other because of the "grand state" nature and may be some times necessary on something like the all class rankings. I also understand that some times it is more difficult to win kids state because of the "grand state" nature that it possesses. I have seen some monster brackets with some great matches at kids state. It is a great accomplishment to win kids state, unless you had like three kids in your bracket. So yes, some times it is harder to win kids state but that is not always the case though. As a coach, I have had some kids that won high school state but did not win kids state. I have had more kids though that won kids state but did not win high school state and I guarantee all of them would have rather won high school state. When you go out into the world and the world of wrestling and people ask you if you were a state champion, they definitely don't mean "kids state" champion, they mean high school state champion.