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Re: Derby Matchups.... January 8-9 [Re: Utown Tiger] #154727 12/30/09 07:39 PM
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Coaches are paid to coach thir teams to the best of their ability most coaches tell the individuals to do their best and the team aspect will take care of itself. As far as your money coments they are irrelevant at the highschool level I dont see any coaches getting rich coaching highschool. The cutting weight I dont know the circumstances of your comments but looks more like parents not keeping an eye on their childs health and also partly the coaches for not seeing the kid was cutting to much, people all have different tolerance levels when it comes to cutting weight some can do it some cant some do it to run from competition some do it to go after competition as is the case with Moeder and I think he would be bumping up a weight not dropping.


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Re: Derby Matchups.... January 8-9 [Re: Utown Tiger] #154728 12/30/09 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted By: Utown Tiger
I have never seen a team get an individual into college to wrestling but maybe it’s different in your world. I have seen a coach convince a wrestler and his parents that dropping 4 weight classes is all for the team and put the wrestler in the hospital from dehydration and low blood sugar for sure! In the end a wrestler is on their own and the coach is all about getting that TEAM championship that will get him a pay raise or better paying job! But that’s just my opinion.




Am I a little slow or is this post sort of out of out of "left field"??

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Re: Derby Matchups.... January 8-9 [Re: Utown Tiger] #154731 12/30/09 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted By: Utown Tiger
I have never seen a team get an individual into college to wrestling but maybe it’s different in your world.



i have seen plenty of state championship wrestlers who couldn't make a bad team any better.

i have seen plenty of good wrestling teams make plenty of bad wrestlers better.

most guys i know would love to be on a good team. granted some coaches do some crazy things, as do some parents/ wrestlers. that doesn't make it a bad thing to do what is best for the team. i don't think bumping up is ever a bad thing.... competition, strenth, whatever the reason.


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Re: Derby Matchups.... January 8-9 [Re: Cokeley] #154734 12/30/09 09:25 PM
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i was responding to this - When Taylor left for Colby to visit relatives and see old friends his plan was to go 135 at Derby. HIS plan however is irrelevant and he will go whatever weight his coach tells him he is going when he gets back.

Re: Derby Matchups.... January 8-9 [Re: Utown Tiger] #154736 12/30/09 09:32 PM
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i do believe wrestling up is great especially with the match possibilities that are gonna be at this tourney! anywho's just seeing it from a different point of view but i really cant wait to get to Derby and see all the action next weekend!

Re: Derby Matchups.... January 8-9 [Re: Cokeley] #154737 12/30/09 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted By: Cokeley
Originally Posted By: Utown Tiger
I have never seen a team get an individual into college to wrestling but maybe it’s different in your world. I have seen a coach convince a wrestler and his parents that dropping 4 weight classes is all for the team and put the wrestler in the hospital from dehydration and low blood sugar for sure! In the end a wrestler is on their own and the coach is all about getting that TEAM championship that will get him a pay raise or better paying job! But that’s just my opinion.




Am I a little slow or is this post sort of out of out of "left field"??


Roger that Will. Left field!

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Re: Derby Matchups.... January 8-9 [Re: Utown Tiger] #154738 12/30/09 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted By: Utown Tiger
I have never seen a team get an individual into college to wrestling but maybe it’s different in your world. I have seen a coach convince a wrestler and his parents that dropping 4 weight classes is all for the team and put the wrestler in the hospital from dehydration and low blood sugar for sure! In the end a wrestler is on their own and the coach is all about getting that TEAM championship that will get him a pay raise or better paying job! But that’s just my opinion.


I'm not sure I follow the message your post is trying to get across, but I can verify from first hand experience that Coach Sims in Colby and Coach Medina at St. James do not fit your coaching "profile". Nor do I feel that any of the other many, many coaches I know fit that profile. (and I would guess any that you really know either)

Re: Derby Matchups.... January 8-9 [Re: Utown Tiger] #154746 12/31/09 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted By: Utown Tiger
I have never seen a team get an individual into college to wrestling but maybe it’s different in your world. I have seen a coach convince a wrestler and his parents that dropping 4 weight classes is all for the team and put the wrestler in the hospital from dehydration and low blood sugar for sure! In the end a wrestler is on their own and the coach is all about getting that TEAM championship that will get him a pay raise or better paying job! But that’s just my opinion.


I have read and read and still do not know what this says. I am ordering my Orphan Annie Decoder from the move "Christmas Story" and maybe it will give me the top secret message. If I had to guess, it says "Be sure to drink your Ovaltine" smile

Re: Derby Matchups.... January 8-9 [Re: M.Church_AD] #154749 12/31/09 06:50 AM
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You'll shoot your eye out trying to figure out Tiger's post.

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Re: Derby Matchups.... January 8-9 [Re: Ricky Bobby] #154754 12/31/09 01:13 PM
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utown, is having some blame issues. trust me son step up and take accountability for your actions. you will feel better, and your quality of life will improve. i understand that some coaches are fools, but if you don't want to cut 4 weight classes, don't. instead spend more time in the weight room, get bigger and stronger. then decide what weight you want, challenge for it, win it, own it. certainly don't place blame on someone else.


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Re: Derby Matchups.... January 8-9 [Re: Cokeley] #154772 12/31/09 04:59 PM
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CHAKA not Understand What be said here. Chaka think I will just watch wrastling at Derby and let the cards fall. Land of the Lost sarcasm.

Re: Derby Matchups.... January 8-9 [Re: Gorilla93] #154799 01/01/10 09:10 PM
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I dont know much about how the way the weights work but I was always told if you go down so many weight classes you have to get a doctors permission? Is this not right.

Also i agree with suckerpunch, dont blame your coaches because you dont know how to say no. Our coaches are the greatest. There not getting rich coaching, or teaching for that matter. I thank all coaches for giving the extra time to be a coach.


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Re: Derby Matchups.... January 8-9 [Re: Standing_up] #154870 01/03/10 11:34 PM
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You mean I won't be able to retire on my coaching salary? Dang!!!! I thought I was getting a contract equivalent to Cael Sanderson at Penn State. Shoot, I guess my $500,000 a year deal through Wichita Heights and the new $4.5 million dollar facility was going to set me for life!!!! I guess the recession hit harder than I thought and now I will have to go back to teaching for a living!!!

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well now that coach leach locked a kid in the closet down in lubbock, coaches won't be able to do anything. heck i bet craig james and his son, would think any wrestling practice was too rough. that's what they will do FALCONCOACH they will wait until that $500,000 salary is due then fire you for making the kids do too many push-ups.


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Re: Derby Matchups.... January 8-9 [Re: HEADUP] #154977 01/05/10 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: ksman01
Is it final that moeder will be going to 135?


When Taylor left for Colby to visit relatives and see old friends his plan was to go 135 at Derby. HIS plan however is irrelevant and he will go whatever weight his coach tells him he is going when he gets back.
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Would this be Coakley that decides?

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Mr Cokley is not the coach. Just a vocal promoter of all things wrestling whose son attends SJA.


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Mike Medina is the SJA head coach.


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