Willie,
I understand well all of the ways you can stall. When it's called, I always understand why the stalling was called. Judgement comes into play in how long you can ride the hips, or take to set up a shot, or clinch or spiral ride. It's not 6 minutes of continual shots.

Regardless, this is not a thread about stalling. It's about Kansas Officials and has morphed into judgement calls. Stalling is one example and I used it as a point that in some cases, officiating comes down to one neutral person's judgement. It is not the coaches' judgement that matters, as they are looking at the match with a biased perspective. Clearly mistakes are made, but you can't have biased coaches making judgement calls. The most vocal and intimidating coach shouldn't control the match. It is up to the system to weed out officials who too often have bad judgement.

Like Beeson, I have very rarely seen officials hide behind the "my judgement" excuse. And I have never seen a youth coach penalized for properly questioning an official's judgement.

IMO, most referees do a pretty good job, and poor officiating rarely (although occasionally) determines the outcome of a match.

If we want truly want good officials, we need to collectively be less of a PITA to them and learn to live and let live a little. Fewer and fewer people are willing to put up with the headache in all sports, not just wrestling.

BTW The argument that they are paid does not work with me. We are all paid to do our jobs, it does not entitle people to come into our place of work and yell and swear at us. I wouldn't stand for it and neither would you. They shouldn't either.