Thanks for the information Chief. It looks like there is an arguement for a lot of guys at that weight and that makes your job even tougher. The last weekend in February will be really exciting at 112 in all the classes.

Wow! Exhibit B: Chief is the right man for the job!

Someones got to do it better him then me.

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Andale - 4A
2. Garden City - 6A
3. Clay Center - 4A
4. Derby - 6A
5. Goddard - 6A
6. Emporia - 5A
7. Valley Center - 4A
8. Lansing - 5A
9. Andover Central - 5A
10. Abilene - 4A


INDIVIDUAL RANKINGS:


103
1. Zac Gentzler - 9 - AC - 5A
2. Bryce Shoemaker - 9 - BAL - 4A
3. Kaleb Bonilla - 11 - GD - 6A
4. Chris Burley - 9 - GB - 5A
5. Clay Mulligan - 10 - SC - 4A
6. Jace Roy - 9 - PV - 4A
7. Dustin Reed - 9 - CB - 4A
8. Chris Sullivan - 10 - HUT - 5A
9. Cullen Hood - 9 - LOU - 4A
10. Jason Perez - 10 - ULY - 4A


112
1. Dalton Miller - 12 - WC - 6A
2. Trevor Boyer - 12 - MV - 5A
3. Bo Newport - 11 - PV - 4A
4. Aspen Kmiec - 11 - SH - 5A
5. Bo Pursel - 10 - LS - 5A
6. Austin Hood - 10 - LOU - 4A
7. Dylan Schumacher - 10 - TMP - 321A
8. Tommy Williams - 10 - STA - 5A
9. Hunter Haralson - 9 - LAW - 6A
10t. Zac Dremel - 10 - OS - 6A
10t. Nathan Reed - 12 - CB - 4A


119
1. Zac Sparr - 12 - RH - 4A
2. Cody Beasley - 11 - WC - 6A
3. Blaine Smith - 12 - SS - 5A
4. Aaron Seybold - 10 - PT - 5A
5. Dane Norris - 11 - MH - 6A
6. Robbie Hines - 11 - ULY - 4A
7. Adrian Salas - 12 - LB - 5A
8. Caleb Seaton - 11 - BS - 5A
9. Colby Witten - 11 - MZ - 6A
10. Colby Watters - 10 - ARK - 5A


125
1. Daniel DeShazer - 11 - WH - 6A
2. Jake Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A
3. Symon Seaton - 11 - BL - 4A
4. Brett LaMar - 12 - SL - 4A
5. Garrett Jones - 12 - AC - 5A
6. Zach Hoehn - 11 - WEL - 321A
7. Steven Plott - 12 - SS - 5A
8. Logan Singular - 12 - CC - 4A
9. Hunter Stalford - 11 - CV - 321A
10. Ross Whitmore - 11 - SMNW - 6A


130
1. Taylor Moeder - 11 - SJA - 4A
2. Colt Rogers - 12 - SC - 321A
3. Kyle Johnson - 11 - COL - 4A
4. Tyson Schmidtberger - 12 - RUS - 4A
5. Lane Greenlee - 12 - GC - 6A
6. Brandon Charbonneau - 10 - EMP - 5A
7. Mario Corado - 11 - PT - 5A
8. Miles Johns - 10 - NEW - 5A
9. Ky Biddle - 10 - CB - 321A
10. Alex Thibault - 9 - HAL - 321A


135
1. Chase Nitcher - 12 - VC - 4A
2. Colton Eck - 11 - AN - 4A
3. Zack Tanenbaum - 11 - BVN - 6A
4. Kash Biddle - 12 - ARK - 5A
5. Alex Bontz - 10 - AC - 5A
6. Jace Campbell - 12 - OA - 321A
7. Uylesses DeShazer - 10 - WH - 6A
8. Courtney Strauss - 11 - AB - 4A
9. Kale Newell - 11 - SC - 321A
10. Cole Schreiner - 11 - SEA - 5A


140
1. Tyler Anderson - 12 - CC - 4A
2. Danny Floyd - 12 - OS - 321A
3. Bryce Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A
4. Spencer Blew - 11 - LS - 5A
5. Bradley Little - 11 - DB - 6A
6. Vance Oliver - 12 - WIN - 5A
7. Tre Houlden - 11 - GD - 6A
8. BT O'Hara - 11 - COL - 4A
9. Tyler McMichael - 10 - CB - 321A
10. Hunter Edwards - 12 - DC - 6A


145
1. Ryne Cokeley - 11 - SJA - 4A
2. Joey Dozier - 12 - GC - 6A
3. Cody Shavlik - 12 - DB - 6A
4. Tyler Davis - 12 - MCP - 5A
5. Chase Sanchez - 11 - EMP - 5A
6. Derrick Weller - 12 - PIP - 4A
7. Connor Middleton - 10 - ONW - 6A
8. Trevor Oliver - 12 - OS - 321A
9. Chris Coover - 12 - OT - 4A
10. Dillon Scanlon - 11 - LS - 5A


152
1. Cade Blair - 12 - VC - 4A
2. Dylan Penka - 11 - BC - 5A
3. Sam Son - 10 - CH - 4A
4. Josh Rodriguez - 12 - ULY - 4A
5. Thomas Rachow - 12 - PHI - 321A
6. Landon Keiswetter - 11 - NO - 321A
7. Dillon Charland - 12 - JC - 6A
8. Jake Walker - 12 - STA - 5A
9. Colten Picking - 11 - AB - 4A
10t. Jason Seibel - 12 - SS - 5A
10t. Cullen Demerest - 12 - LS - 5A


160
1. Jake Hattabaugh - 11 - AN - 4A
2. John Hambleton - 12 - LC - 4A
3. Nick Thibault - 12 - HAL - 321A
4. Logan Gaskill - 12 - EMP - 5A
5. Reece Wright-Conklin - 10 - LAW - 6A
6. Spencer Shirk - 11 - NO - 321A
7. Lucas Cortez - 12 - EL - 4A
8. Austin Baird - 12 - PRT - 4A
9. Joe Johnson - 12 - BL - 4A
10. DJ Collins - 12 - WS - 6A


171
1. Parker Madl - 12 - BV - 6A
2. Benny Armstrong - 12 - AN - 4A
3. Corey Engstrom - 12 - HOI - 321A
4. Ethan Mumaw - 11 - JW - 4A
5. Matt Reed - 10 - WH - 6A
6. Chance Davis - 12 - CC - 4A
7. Taylor Baird - 11 - PRT - 4A
8. Jeremie Maus - 12 - TG - 4A
9. Evon Royal - 12 - JC - 6A
10. Zane Perez - 12 - NO - 321A


189
1. Jace Banner - 12 - DC - 6A
2. David Blazevic - 12 - ON - 6A
3. Jonathan Truman - 12 - KMC - 5A
4. Zach Grimes - 11 - OZ - 4A
5. Dylon Walker - 12 - EL - 4A
6. Tate Omli - 11 - MIN - 321A
7. Zach Anderson - 11 - CC - 4A
8. Tyler Gjerstad - 12 - AB - 4A
9. Luke Hayes - 10 - SC - 4A
10. Steven Cooksley - 12 - SEA - 5A


215
1. Mark Kolmer - 12 - EMP - 5A
2. Kyle Caylor - 12 - WNW - 6A
3. Taylor Wuthnow - 12 - AB - 4A
4. Nick Pearch - 12 - BV - 6A
5. Gage Knudson - 11 - JC - 6A
6. Ethan Jirak - 11 - OAK - 321A
7. Josh Hicks - 12 - GD - 6A
8. Dylan Matheny - 12 - KMC - 5A
9. Shawn Marlatt - 10 - DB - 6A
10. Josh Bush - 12 - LV - 6A


285
1. BJ Finney - 12 - AN - 4A
2. Tank Burns - 12 - COL - 4A
3. Trey Page - 12 - WNW - 6A
4. Lorenzo Serna - 12 - EMP - 5A
5. Jared Rice - 12 - PHI - 321A
6. Cody Huffman - 12 - DOU - 321A
7. Dillon Salmans - 11 - HOX - 321A
8. Beau Bennett - 11 - PT - 5A
9. Damone Hatch - 12 - IND - 4A
10. Luke Henning - 11 - AUG - 4A

That's kind of a harsh comment to make about Schumacher beating Prescott. Up until that point, yes Prescott was Schumacher's biggest win this season. But just because some of the others aren't on the All-class list doesn't mean they aren't quality wins. I know it was last year, but what about Schumacher T-falling the #4 All-class kid in less than 3 minutes? Give the kid some credit. He's basically dominated everybody else. Chief, what's your stand on the cry baby rule? Do you think a match should be stopped just because a kid starts crying when he's about to be put in some sort of pinning combination?

i think "quality" wins definitely have something to do with ALL CLASS RANKINGS. i don't think chief meant any harm to schumacher. to be the best you have to beat the best. right? you are right about last year. last year goes into the PRE-SEASON RANKINGS, at this point in the season, last years means about as much as...........you fill in the rest.

I think I have adequately given Dylan credit. He is one of the best in Kansas and I hope he finishes strong!

TJ stokes of gardner beat Logan Singular at newton

That is hard to fix with TJ losing 7 matches, most recently to Bauerly and a 6-6 Haug. Nice win for TJ, but can't hardly rank him in AC.

Anybody who knows Schumacher, knows he doesnt need one man's OPINION to let him know just how good he is. Its enough for him and the people around him to know that he is one of the best (on many days I would say the best) at 112.

i can understand not ranking tj all class but i don't understand keeping Singular at 8th without putting tj ahead of him

No offense but KU lost to Tennessee but they did not put Tennessee ahead of them. You have to look at the whole body of work. JMO

Come on MCL Lighty, you know that's impossible! A small school kid could never compete with the kids from the bigger schools. I guess that's why there hasn't been any discussion regarding him losing his first match on a RIDICULOUSLY officiated match. If it were the other way around, it would have blown up on the forum.

Rankings of any kind are by nature not exact. It is why we try to have a computer do it in college football and we know the impassioned debates that can cause. The "field of 64" in college basketball is always attacked by second guessers about what team didn't make the field. It is by nature OPINION.

Even if we had an "All Classification Tournament" and did final rankings afterward, we would still have some questions. What about a decision between even a ranking of 2nd and 3rd (if 3rd lost to 1st and 2nd lost to 1st and there is not a challenge opportunity)? This might create debate.

Even if there was an "All Classification Round Robin", unless everything fell in line such that #1 had no losses and #16 had no wins, and it fell out perfectly in between, there would still be conflicting outcomes. There would be wins and losses by more points here, less points there, pins that were "lucky" etc… and the debate would still rage.

Chief himself admitted that Schumacher was better than his #7 ranking. But you have to work as best you can with all the data you have at your disposal and then form an OPINION...and then, of course inevitably, address all the dissenting OPINIONS.

schumacher is #1 in the I.C.C.L Rankings.

what's up with all the pumpkin pounder references?

any wrestler worth his spit knows that medals are won with blood, sweat, and tears, not on some talk forum ranking thread.

no offense chief. i appreciate what you do, UNTIL you don't rank one of my boys then i wonder "what the heck is he thinking?" just kidding keep up the exhausting work.

I agree. Chief would agree. I believe those responsible for the I.C.C.L Rankings would agree. So let's understand the inherent limitations of rankings, either enjoy them or ignore them, and then enjoy what we can all agree on: watching some great kids excel.

the folks at I.C.C.L definitely agree!

My previous post was just to let anyone out there who was upset about the match for whatever reason know that Dylan has moved on and is becoming a better wrestler for it. Not to undermind Chief

Because then I would have to put Bauerly and a 6-6 Haug at #5 and #6.

Can i get some clarification on how Penka shot all the way up to #2 in the all class ranking? Just surprised me a little bit when i saw that.