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[Re: June Bug]
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02/02/10 02:58 AM
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Well apparently June Bug was at the Salina TOC this weekend. 
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Unnecessary Roughness is Necessary
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Re: undefeated wrestlers?
[Re: Matt Jones]
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02/02/10 03:06 AM
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You hit the nail on the head Matt.
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Re: undefeated wrestlers?
[Re: Matt Jones]
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02/02/10 03:20 AM
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I won't comment on the call, I wasn't there and don't have a stake. I do firmly believe that wrestling is a tough sport and is supposed to be physical. Ref's in the KC area call uneccesary roughness more than those out west. Big wrestling states such as Illinois, Pennsylvania, Ohio and NJ would laugh at some of the pansy calls made around here.
Matt Jones ROTFL!!! Maybe that has some connection with why we do not have a D1 team in KS . . .
D. Dean Welsh, Junction City
***Dean plays well with others!!! ;-)
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Re: undefeated wrestlers?
[Re: Dean Welsh]
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02/02/10 03:42 AM
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wrestlr4life
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Oh, never mind. I just figured it out.
Does it have to do with a certain kind of bird that lays eggs and what comes out of it rear end? Yeah, I bet it does.
Aren't you glad I'm teaching the youth of America!?
;-) I was wondering the same thing but i loved the way you put that. it most definitely cleared it up for me. haha haha
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Re: undefeated wrestlers?
[Re: Cokeley]
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02/02/10 05:12 AM
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[Qoute] Bring that video on! It was a cupped hand. It was a false start and at most unnessary roughness or unsportsmanlike conduct. It is a combat sport and it is rough. Your coach tabled the official and plead for a FM. That is cs in my book! [Qoute]
If my son wrestled for coach that had to lobby for FM for my son to get a win that way.My kid wouldn't wrestle for that coach PERIOD!
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[Re: Quagmire]
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02/02/10 02:06 PM
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Out west they bring that crossface from left field! 
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Re: undefeated wrestlers?
[Re: KCwrestling]
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02/02/10 02:30 PM
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If my son wrestled for coach that had to lobby for FM for my son to get a win that way.My kid wouldn't wrestle for that coach PERIOD!
My thoughts exactly!
Will Cokeley
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Re: undefeated wrestlers?
[Re: moeder]
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02/02/10 03:34 PM
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Taylor was called for a Flagrant Miscondut call after a stale mate for an agressive swipe on a collar tie anticipating the whistle. Did he need to do this, absolutely not. I know he is not very proud of it. Did it qualify for an ejection? I do not believe it was even close to calling for that, but obviously I am very partial. The ref felt in his decision that it warranted it and it was called. I received several calls and emails suggesting we file a complaint with the state. As far as I am concerned he was frustrated with some minor issues that he should not have let bother him and needs to learn a lesson from this. I have no intentions of belittling the call or drawing attention to the official involved. The decision was made, its over and he now has a loss on his record and he can accept the responsibility fully on his own shoulders. How he handles himself in the future is up to him. I hope some parents see the above post...Make sure your kid takes ownership of it, learn from it and move on. Great post by Mr. Moeder!!!!
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Re: undefeated wrestlers?
[Re: oldfan]
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02/02/10 03:53 PM
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I agree. When I read his post, I immediately thought what a class act this young gladiator has for a father. I think this sport could use a few more Mr. Moeders out there.
Lee Girard
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Re: undefeated wrestlers?
[Re: ReDPloyd]
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02/02/10 04:15 PM
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Quagmire
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And less people like Mr.Cokeley 
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Re: undefeated wrestlers?
[Re: Cokeley]
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02/02/10 04:16 PM
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If my son wrestled for coach that had to lobby for FM for my son to get a win that way.My kid wouldn't wrestle for that coach PERIOD!
My thoughts exactly! we ALL need to think before we speak/post. EVERY COACH has lobbied from the corner, for a win in ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. I try not to lobby from the corner for points, calls, warnings, etc. BUT i will NEVER say that i haven't, OR won't.
"with attitude, will, and some spirit"
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Re: undefeated wrestlers?
[Re: ReDPloyd]
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02/02/10 04:18 PM
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Thank you for your kind words. I honestly do expect more out of Taylor than what he showed and we have addressed the event just as I stated. But, keep in mind; it is easy for me to look at what I perceive to be the correct way to handle this because I have made plenty of mistakes on my own to reflect on. Believe me, if he puts me through what I put my parents through, I'll kill him! I am no saint I can assure you. He has made me proud of him all his life, and I consider this to be a pothole in his road of life. I sure hope he chooses to drive around around it instead of thru it next time. I hope we can now let the guys that really deserve the attention on this thread have their due. Good luck to staying undefeated, and stay FOCUSED!
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Re: undefeated wrestlers?
[Re: KansasWrestling1]
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02/02/10 05:11 PM
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Beeson's signature says it all, this is a physical sport if you dont like or cant handle it then QUIT. Moeder was clearly frustrated during the match the ref should have made the other kid wrestle instead of backing up while on feet and balling up on bottom. Cant tell if the hand was a fist or open from the video posted so not sure on the call.
Jeremy Molloy
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Re: undefeated wrestlers?
[Re: Jeremy Molloy]
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02/02/10 05:14 PM
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he was wrestling a smart match it was moeder a really good wreslte he was winning 10 to 3 in the third Lukas was just wreslting smart wrestling is a hard sport but u need to learn to control your emotions dumb move on moeder part.
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Re: undefeated wrestlers?
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02/02/10 05:19 PM
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Looking at the video the kid made the hard collar tie to the head look a lot worst than it was. If wrestling smart means backing up to the edge of the mat every time you are about to get taken down then this bjorgo is a genius.
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Re: undefeated wrestlers?
[Re: Jeremy Molloy]
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02/02/10 05:25 PM
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The events have absolutely NOTHING to do with St. James as a team or a group and that is wrong to even suggest. There is not a single coach that teaches anything but quality expectations from their wrestlers at this school. Why would you even feel the need to bring the team into an act made by an indivdual? You have every right to express your opinion on the match, but no reason to attack the school. I can accept and expect justified criticism, but I think you're heading in a whole different direction and there is definetly no need for that. The match is over, he was DQ'd, it's been accepted.
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Re: undefeated wrestlers?
[Re: moeder]
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02/02/10 05:38 PM
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This reminds me of the way many used to feel about St Thomas Aquinas. I am sure that SJA has stolen some of their thunder. When a team is doing well and is successful, some people like to criticize. It must be jealousy.
I say, take that jealousy and use it to get better.
Lou Ann Baker
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Re: undefeated wrestlers?
[Re: moeder]
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02/02/10 06:17 PM
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The events have absolutely NOTHING to do with St. James as a team or a group and that is wrong to even suggest. There is not a single coach that teaches anything but quality expectations from their wrestlers at this school. Why would you even feel the need to bring the team into an act made by an indivdual? You have every right to express your opinion on the match, but no reason to attack the school. I can accept and expect justified criticism, but I think you're heading in a whole different direction and there is definetly no need for that. The match is over, he was DQ'd, it's been accepted. There is a lot of wisdom, sound reasoning and logic in this post. Again, my admiration to Mr. Moeder, which I believe his son already recognizes and wants to exemplify in his life. As for Saint Thomas Aquinas, I know enough about their Kids' program - their coaches, wrestlers, administrative personnel, parents and fans to give them nothing but absolute respect and admiration. Many of these individuals are also involved with their High School, which leads me to believe that they run a top notch and very respectable program there as well.
Lee Girard
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Re: undefeated wrestlers?
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02/02/10 06:27 PM
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You are correct regarding STA and I should have done a better job with my earlier post.
I meant to say that regardless of all the hard work, coaching, Kids Club, etc. some people will criticize a team that has continued success. 5-6 years ago, the critics seem to single out STA. Now that St James is on a roll, it seems that they are on the receiving end of this same type of jealousy.
Lou Ann Baker
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