We involved at the Hutch Tourney also don't like the 5 kids in the 8 man but we have used 8 man brackets to give more kids a chance to medal. We are discussing expanding brackets next year creating more rounds and better competion. If you have 857 kids like we did and allow 5 man round robins that makes for a very long day. Its bad both ways and we try to do the best we can. This year went very well and the tourney was over by 4 o'clock for most kids. Thanks to all that came and enjoyed the day!