Re: FAB FIVE!
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X, If you keep up this lovefest with Badbo we might have to ask you to voluntarily register yourself. 
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Re: FAB FIVE!
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First off Dear Will, it is Little Badbo not Badbo. Badbo is not near as cute or Fabulous. And secondly, that was a way unnecessary comment because I already suggested a Man Crush List to deal with this. But once again, thanks for the constructive criticism. I should have known that I could count on you. And I might add that you will not be on the Man Crush List and you need to do something with your hair.
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Re: FAB FIVE!
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I think the word fabulous should be reserved for a sport other than wrestling. It is way too feminine!!! Reminds me of Brian(the dog) Griffin's gay cousin talking on Family Guy.
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Re: FAB FIVE!
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You know the answer to that one too.......................
Just like I jumped a mom this weekend for screaming "go sweetheart!" I told her yelling "rip his Freaking head off Sweetheart" would be better, or just stay quiet.
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Re: FAB FIVE!
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I think the word fabulous should be reserved for a sport other than wrestling. It is way too feminine!!! Reminds me of Brian(the dog) Griffin's gay cousin talking on Family Guy.
Ok Doug, I understand your sentiment but then it couldn't be the Fab 5 because obviously Fab means Fabulous. Suggestions? Don't forget about the Fabulous Thunderbirds or better yet the Fabulous Freebirds. I know you aint about to call PS Hayes, Bam Bam Gordy or Buddy Roberts feminine.
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Re: FAB FIVE!
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Ok, so I'll move my argument to the Chief. Chief, you have to change it to the Cinco Sickos, or the Maniacal Five, or the Five Freaking Animals, You'll think of something..........Or I could just stop watching Family Guy.
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Re: FAB FIVE!
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It's not Fabulous. It's Fab, which makes it OK.
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Re: FAB FIVE!
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Like the laundry detergent? As in "take 'em to the cleaners" I can live with that.
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Re: FAB FIVE!
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Why all the biased speculation. Just vote on the fab five after Senior Nationals. Gives you the truth of who is the best in their weight reguardless of classification. I feel all classes 321a 4a 5a and 6a all have talented kids, and at the same time they have some very weak weights as well.
lyle It will always be biased speculation. Part of the reason that Cokeley, Moeder and Madl are in there is because of National events. I agre with Lyle. This Fab Five deal is rediculous speculation. None of those 5 even won by a major decision in their finals matches at state. You know, I bet that Lyle wouldn't have been on a pre-nationals "Fab Five" list either if there was one back then. Brian Budke
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Re: FAB FIVE!
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Brian,
You think those 5 wrestlers are a ridiculous speculation? That would imply that they are not even close. Do you have a hospital gown on?
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Re: FAB FIVE!
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Why all the biased speculation. Just vote on the fab five after Senior Nationals. Gives you the truth of who is the best in their weight reguardless of classification. I feel all classes 321a 4a 5a and 6a all have talented kids, and at the same time they have some very weak weights as well.
lyle It will always be biased speculation. Part of the reason that Cokeley, Moeder and Madl are in there is because of National events. I agre with Lyle. This Fab Five deal is rediculous speculation. None of those 5 even won by a major decision in their finals matches at state. You know, I bet that Lyle wouldn't have been on a pre-nationals "Fab Five" list either if there was one back then. Brian Budke So they aren't good enough because they didn't win by more than a major decision? Did you know that all of those wrestlers on that list excpet Cokeley have either been in the same bracket or have wrestled their opponent more than once. The more you wrestle someone the closer it should get every time. Eventually they should figure out how to beat them. A prime example would be Trey Holden and Bradly Little.
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Re: FAB FIVE!
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Quaqmire,
You crack me up dude.
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Re: FAB FIVE!
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I don't think anyone questions the five on the list, they only question the need to narrow the all class rankings down to five.
Chief is familiar with the wrestlers and recognizes their tremendous talent. Someone west of...say metro KC might have a list of 5 that includes DeShazer, Finney, Anderson, Floyd and Rogers, all undefeated state champs and deserving in their own right. This list would offend anyone from back east.
The point is, any list of five leaves out some very deserving kids.
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Re: FAB FIVE!
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I have done some research and have compiled some Data as to why these young men should stay the FAB FIVE:
Cade Blair: 3x High School State Champ(twice in 5a and once in 4a). Undefeated Senior Season. 1 loss in his Junior Season(he split with Joey Dozier). Sophomore Season he avenged almost all nine losses. He has quality wins over: Ryne Cokeley(3xer) Joey Dozier(State Champ) Sam Son(2x runner up) Colten Picking(stop his undefeated season) Colby Crank(State Champ) Josh Rodriguez Morgan Numrich Fun Fact: Went from being JV his freshman year to being a State Champ his sophomore year.
Ryne Cokeley: 3x High School State Champ. Has not lost to anyone ranked below him his past 2 seasons. Only loss to a Kansas kid was Cade Blair his Junior season(3-2 in the third over time). Only loss to a Kansas kid his sophomore season was to C.J. Napier(4-2). Was in arguably the toughest 4a bracket in the '08 season: 1st Cokeley 2nd Sparr(State Champ in 2010) 3rd Anderson(State Champ in 2010) 4th Weller(State Finalist in 2007) 5th Slyter(State Champ in 2007) 6th Rockhold(State Finalist in 2007) Has 2 wins over 2x state Champ Spencer Blew. Has a win over Kash Biddle. 3rd in 2008 Cadet Greco Nationals. 2nd in 2008 Cadet Freestyle Nationals. Number 1 ranked Junior in the WrestlingUSA magazine. Fun Fact: The Wyoming Kid that Cokeley wrestled at the Big Horn Nationals had an undefeated senior season this year.
Taylor Moeder: 2x High School State Champ Only one loss this season(very flukey) Has wins this season over 8 STATE CHAMPS: Jordan Basks (2x OK State Champ) Oliver Pierce (Freshman State Champ in TX) this was pre season Josh Haugen (OK State Champ) Kash Biddle Chase Nitcher (2xer) Gage Harrison (MO State Champ) Joseph Martinez (2x CO State Champ) Brandon Charbonneau
Chase Nitcher: 2x State Champ Has only lost to 2 kids his entire career (Jordan Keller and Taylor Moeder) Has quality wins over: Daniel Deshazer(2x state champ) Brandon Charbonneau(State champ) Colton Eck(state runner up) Kash Biddle(state champ) Ulysses Deshazer(2x state runner up)
Parker Madl: 2x High School State Champ. Undefeated Senior season. 1 loss in his Junior season. Very impressive Senior Season. Signed with Oklahoma University. Quality wins: Linwood Peoples Benny Armstrong(2x State Runner up) Evon Royal Matt Reed Chaz Lawrence(State Champ) Reece Conklin(State Champ) Cameron Jesseph(2x State Champ)
Who has better credentials than these 5?
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Re: FAB FIVE!
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Why all the biased speculation. Just vote on the fab five after Senior Nationals. Gives you the truth of who is the best in their weight reguardless of classification. I feel all classes 321a 4a 5a and 6a all have talented kids, and at the same time they have some very weak weights as well.
lyle It will always be biased speculation. Part of the reason that Cokeley, Moeder and Madl are in there is because of National events. I agre with Lyle. This Fab Five deal is rediculous speculation. None of those 5 even won by a major decision in their finals matches at state. You know, I bet that Lyle wouldn't have been on a pre-nationals "Fab Five" list either if there was one back then. Brian Budke If by ridiculous you mean funny and entertaining than I agree. If you mean as in stupid, illogical or asinine than I do not. As far as speculation, that comment itself is ridiculous and asinine. I think that most everyone would agree that those are the "Fab" 5. It is just a matter of say selecting the next two or three. That might be speculation. As far as Senior Nationals, you can't just base it off of that. Certain individuals might have tougher weights, etc. I don't think that we have to have more results to determine the "Fab" 5. The only maybe would be whether to add Rogers or not. Just my thoughts.
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Re: FAB FIVE!
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You big school people remind me of the guy from My New Hair Cut. EVERYONE else just smile nod and let them think they are right they are to dumb to know any better. Colt Rodgers should be at the top of this list.
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Re: FAB FIVE!
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You big school people remind me of the guy from My New Hair Cut. EVERYONE else just smile nod and let them think they are right the are to dumb to know any better. Colt Rodgers should be at the top of this list. Lucas, List the criteria as quagmire has in your support of Rogers being #1. A sound bite or two is not convincing.
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Re: FAB FIVE!
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Im sorry I have no clue what you are talking about. You want Criteria as to why he should be number one. Well um lets see 4x timer never beat by another Kansas kid. 136-3 record
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Re: FAB FIVE!
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Im sorry I have no clue what you are talking about. You want Criteria as to why he should be number one. Well um lets see 4x timer never beat by another Kansas kid. 136-3 record That is the lazy list of criteria. It's also deceiving, seeing that he has lost to Mainz and Hentzen, both Kansas kids. Of the 136 wins, how many were at national tournaments? How many were state champions outside of 321A? Keep in mind that I have applauded loudly for Colt his entire career. This is also the appropriate thread to discuss the differences between his record and the FF, instead of the CR thread.
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